goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 21 Dec 2014 14:38
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Fury as May announces she’ll disband child sex abuse inquiry panel – Exaro News
Home Secretary Theresa May is to disband the panel for the overarching inquiry into child sex abuse, according to Exaro News.
She wrote to each member of the panel at the end of last week to say that she is considering turning it into a statutory inquiry, or setting up a fresh statutory inquiry or a Royal Commission.
But her move has prompted fury among panel members. They are urging May to convert the inquiry to statutory status and keep the current panel.
You can read the rest of the article on the Exaro News website.
It seems Theresa May is saying she’ll get rid of the panel’s members in response to concerns about those members, raised by abuse survivors – but panel members have accused her of listening to a vocal minority set against the inquiry instead of the majority of those who have survived abuse.
Who could this minority be?
Well, in a leaked letter to Theresa May, panel member Sharon Evans states: “I was… informed by three men who did not know each other and all who described themselves as having no political axe to grind, that a senior politician has been having sex with young boys and his marriage is a sham.”
Hmm.
goldfinger
- 21 Dec 2014 14:41
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goldfinger
- 21 Dec 2014 14:43
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One heck of a cover up by the Tories, now why would that be!!!!!!!!!!!!
doodlebug4
- 21 Dec 2014 14:56
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Part of an article published by a barrister last month;
"Exaro News is playing a dangerous game with its paedophile murder story
Exaro News has been drip feeding allegations and rumours of a paedophile sex ring in high places for many months."
doodlebug4
- 21 Dec 2014 14:59
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http://barristerblogger.com/2014/11/16/exaro-news-playing-dangerous-game-paedophile-murder-story/
Chris Carson
- 21 Dec 2014 15:10
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Why anybody Red, Blue, Green etc can get so excited about these Mickey Mouse polls so early in the game is beyond me. All the parties have an awful lot of work to do to convince the vast majority of people to even vote. Maybe be more convincing and actually mean anything four weeks before the General Election. Present polls are as accurate as GF, Mike740, mick tarquin kipper etc 99% claim success re trading. :0)
doodlebug4
- 21 Dec 2014 15:16
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Agreed Chris, Labour were well ahead in most polls in the run up to the last GE until Gordon Broon screwed everything up at the last minute!
doodlebug4
- 21 Dec 2014 16:11
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It's quite astonishing that Exaro is publishing all this information while a police investigation is still ongoing. "Nick", who has been making most of these serious allegations has a 20 year history of mental health problems.
Fred1new
- 21 Dec 2014 16:50
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Db4,
How far can you trace yours back?
Haystack
- 21 Dec 2014 17:02
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Kinnock was ahead in the polls a few days before he lost badly. But then, of course, Michael Foot was always behind and gave Maggie a very nice majority and the biggest Labour defeat for 50 years. It was a 145 seat defeat. His socialist manifesto was called, 'the longest suicide note in history'. The comment was made by Labour Party MP Gerald Kaufman. It shows you what the public think of socialism.
goldfinger
- 21 Dec 2014 17:05
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The public love socialists.
goldfinger
- 21 Dec 2014 17:06
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And the polls are far more accurate than they were in Kinnocks day.
Haystack
- 21 Dec 2014 17:56
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1498743.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_12_21
Labour’s new faces lash out at Miliband
LEADING Labour election candidates have launched a withering attack on Ed Miliband’s election campaign, accusing the party of taking its core voters “for granted” and denouncing a ban on discussing immigration with voters.
One of Miliband’s closest allies last week condemned the “meaningless” instructions issued by campaign headquarters. Another candidate complained that Labour’s organisation was “moribund” in large parts of the country because the party has refused to engage with local people.
A third said Labour was struggling in the north because the party had succumbed to “safe seat syndrome” and ignored traditional supporters.
The complaints came at a public meeting in the House of Commons on Monday night, just hours after a row erupted over Miliband’s approach to immigration.
MaxK
- 21 Dec 2014 18:22
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There are few safe seats in working class areas...ukip have proved that.
cynic
- 21 Dec 2014 18:29
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according to a vocal few on this thread there are only non-workers (aka unemployed), scroungers, immigrants (mainly illegal), cheats and toffs, so what is this mysterious working class and where does it swarm to create some oddly named "safe seat"?
MaxK
- 21 Dec 2014 19:04
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A once plentyfull species c, now sadly in decline.
Fred1new
- 21 Dec 2014 19:33
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The tories are getting so desperate that they are trying to get their mates in the neo-fascist right wing press to start the smearing.
Hoping that the public will buy it.
The wanna be "celebrity" like Haze with all his "contacts" is relying on gutter press statements made years ago, hoping to suck up to the party central office while waiting for the next set of instructions.
The tories have lied over the NHS, the Welfare Services, the economy, the prisons, the police service and on and on, including the Armed Forces, which they have cut back and are now trying to cover up their mistakes
The Cameron lies over immigration and reduction of numbers will be more apparent.
A failure, after failure, lie after lie.
Also, the destruction of the local community services will come back to haunt it Cameron and Osborne in May.
Also, the employment figures will be displayed to show those on "earnings" below the minimal living rate.
It is becoming more apparent to the public that this is a failed government and indeed the Nastiest Party to have been in power for a very long time.
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I know who I would put my money on to form the next government and it wouldn't be Cameron and Cronies.
MaxK
- 21 Dec 2014 19:44
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if there's any legs to this story, the election could take a back seat....
A dossier implicating three MPs and a three members of the House of Lords in a Westminster paedophile ring has been handed to Scotland Yard.
The Sunday Times reports a list of 22 high-profile figures has been compiled by Labour MP John Mann including 13 former ministers.
A well as claims of sexual abuse dating back to to the 1970s, police are also looking seriously at claims three boys were murdered in a luxury London apartment in Dolphin Square.
One of those killed is alleged to have been strangled by a Tory MP during a sex game, a claim described by Scotland Yard as "credible and true".
Mann has said previously: "All those 22 names are worthy of investigation by the police. The evidence against half of them is very compelling.
"Some of them could definitely be prosecuted and I believe several of them were definitely child abusers.
"I have been given many other names although at present I do not believe the evidence is sufficiently strong to pass them on the police."
The dossier includes the names of 14 Tory politicians, five Labour MPs and three from other parties.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/21/westminster-paedophile-ring-dossier-three-3-mps-peers-house-lords_n_6362270.html?1419171227
Haystack
- 21 Dec 2014 19:44
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There are plenty of working class people. Some vote Labour, some Conservative etc. The lefties would have you believe that no one likes the Conservatives. Of course, this is clearly nonsense. Labour and the Conservatives move up and down by the odd point or two but at present they are essentially tied. That means that a similar number of people like Labour and Conservatives. Each has around a third of the population supporting them. The funny thing is that the very things that each party hate about the other is what their supporters like. An instance of this is the benefit cuts. They are very unpopular with Labour supporters. However, the majority of the public are in favour of them. This is a problem for Labour that they have attempted to solve by saying that they will cut benefits as well. Labour are behaving like a tribute band, but the real thing is best.
Fred1new
- 21 Dec 2014 19:46
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Max,
You will have to ask Haze.
He was friends with on the the chief whippers of that period.