Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Agreed Chris, Labour were well ahead in most polls in the run up to the last GE until Gordon Broon screwed everything up at the last minute!

It's quite astonishing that Exaro is publishing all this information while a police investigation is still ongoing. "Nick", who has been making most of these serious allegations has a 20 year history of mental health problems.

Db4,

How far can you trace yours back?

Kinnock was ahead in the polls a few days before he lost badly. But then, of course, Michael Foot was always behind and gave Maggie a very nice majority and the biggest Labour defeat for 50 years. It was a 145 seat defeat. His socialist manifesto was called, 'the longest suicide note in history'. The comment was made by Labour Party MP Gerald Kaufman. It shows you what the public think of socialism.

The public love socialists.

And the polls are far more accurate than they were in Kinnocks day.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1498743.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2014_12_21

Labour’s new faces lash out at Miliband

LEADING Labour election candidates have launched a withering attack on Ed Miliband’s election campaign, accusing the party of taking its core voters “for granted” and denouncing a ban on discussing immigration with voters.

One of Miliband’s closest allies last week condemned the “meaningless” instructions issued by campaign headquarters. Another candidate complained that Labour’s organisation was “moribund” in large parts of the country because the party has refused to engage with local people.

A third said Labour was struggling in the north because the party had succumbed to “safe seat syndrome” and ignored traditional supporters.

The complaints came at a public meeting in the House of Commons on Monday night, just hours after a row erupted over Miliband’s approach to immigration.

There are few safe seats in working class areas...ukip have proved that.

according to a vocal few on this thread there are only non-workers (aka unemployed), scroungers, immigrants (mainly illegal), cheats and toffs, so what is this mysterious working class and where does it swarm to create some oddly named "safe seat"?

A once plentyfull species c, now sadly in decline.

The tories are getting so desperate that they are trying to get their mates in the neo-fascist right wing press to start the smearing.

Hoping that the public will buy it.

The wanna be "celebrity" like Haze with all his "contacts" is relying on gutter press statements made years ago, hoping to suck up to the party central office while waiting for the next set of instructions.

The tories have lied over the NHS, the Welfare Services, the economy, the prisons, the police service and on and on, including the Armed Forces, which they have cut back and are now trying to cover up their mistakes

The Cameron lies over immigration and reduction of numbers will be more apparent.

A failure, after failure, lie after lie.

Also, the destruction of the local community services will come back to haunt it Cameron and Osborne in May.

Also, the employment figures will be displayed to show those on "earnings" below the minimal living rate.

It is becoming more apparent to the public that this is a failed government and indeed the Nastiest Party to have been in power for a very long time.


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I know who I would put my money on to form the next government and it wouldn't be Cameron and Cronies.

if there's any legs to this story, the election could take a back seat....



A dossier implicating three MPs and a three members of the House of Lords in a Westminster paedophile ring has been handed to Scotland Yard.

The Sunday Times reports a list of 22 high-profile figures has been compiled by Labour MP John Mann including 13 former ministers.

A well as claims of sexual abuse dating back to to the 1970s, police are also looking seriously at claims three boys were murdered in a luxury London apartment in Dolphin Square.

One of those killed is alleged to have been strangled by a Tory MP during a sex game, a claim described by Scotland Yard as "credible and true".

Mann has said previously: "All those 22 names are worthy of investigation by the police. The evidence against half of them is very compelling.

"Some of them could definitely be prosecuted and I believe several of them were definitely child abusers.

"I have been given many other names although at present I do not believe the evidence is sufficiently strong to pass them on the police."

The dossier includes the names of 14 Tory politicians, five Labour MPs and three from other parties.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/21/westminster-paedophile-ring-dossier-three-3-mps-peers-house-lords_n_6362270.html?1419171227

There are plenty of working class people. Some vote Labour, some Conservative etc. The lefties would have you believe that no one likes the Conservatives. Of course, this is clearly nonsense. Labour and the Conservatives move up and down by the odd point or two but at present they are essentially tied. That means that a similar number of people like Labour and Conservatives. Each has around a third of the population supporting them. The funny thing is that the very things that each party hate about the other is what their supporters like. An instance of this is the benefit cuts. They are very unpopular with Labour supporters. However, the majority of the public are in favour of them. This is a problem for Labour that they have attempted to solve by saying that they will cut benefits as well. Labour are behaving like a tribute band, but the real thing is best.

Max,

You will have to ask Haze.

He was friends with on the the chief whippers of that period.

lol, good one Fred :-)

Strange isn't it that this whole paedophile story has been latched on to by a Labour MP on the back of allegations by a bloke called "Nick" who has a 20 year history of mental health issues. GE campaign now fully under way and and the dirty tricks campaign has just got going as well.

Agree Fred.....

Fred1new Send an email to Fred1new View Fred1new's profile - 21 Dec 2014 19:33 - 53573 of 53578

The tories are getting so desperate that they are trying to get their mates in the neo-fascist right wing press to start the smearing.

Hoping that the public will buy it.

The wanna be "celebrity" like Haze with all his "contacts" is relying on gutter press statements made years ago, hoping to suck up to the party central office while waiting for the next set of instructions.

The tories have lied over the NHS, the Welfare Services, the economy, the prisons, the police service and on and on, including the Armed Forces, which they have cut back and are now trying to cover up their mistakes

The Cameron lies over immigration and reduction of numbers will be more apparent.

A failure, after failure, lie after lie.

Also, the destruction of the local community services will come back to haunt it Cameron and Osborne in May.

Also, the employment figures will be displayed to show those on "earnings" below the minimal living rate.

It is becoming more apparent to the public that this is a failed government and indeed the Nastiest Party to have been in power for a very long time.

And the labour lot done better in their 13 years?


Come on gf, you know they fucked the whole machine, left, right and everyway.


btw, it's Nu Lab that let the loose the dogs of part time hours (circa 2008)



You have a short memory.

Sounds like gf and his mate Fred are the people who are getting desperate. Hardly a "failed Government" considering the economic mess they inherited from Brown and Balls. They have also coped pretty damn well considering their coalition partners -headed by Messrs Cable and Clegg - have stabbed them in the back at every available opportunity.

'wannabe celebrity' that's rich coming from the founder of the world famous wait for it:-











World famous 'Mick Tarquin Kipper System' try googling it. LOLLOLLOL!!!!