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- 03 Feb 2016 10:00
Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....
cynic
- 17 Sep 2016 19:35
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fred - why do you always feel it necessary to patronise or belittle those who don't agree with your point of view?
MaxK
- 17 Sep 2016 20:56
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Fred is a living god!
jimmy b
- 17 Sep 2016 23:21
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Also, take you dark glasses off when you view TV programs on the EU and immigration.
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You complete muppet that's what most of the country voted out on , immigration !!
Fred1new
- 18 Sep 2016 08:41
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Manuel,
When I do so it is usually returning the compliments.
Besides some like you seem to becoming a little doddery and need all the help that can be given to them.
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Dumbo,
37.4% of the total electorate voted out in the referendum.
The rest voted to remain or didn't vote.
grannyboy
- 18 Sep 2016 09:16
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"37.4% of the total electorate voted out in the referendum."
I take the 52%, 17.4 million that DID vote to LEAVE as the official and
only one that mattered........
Fred1new
- 18 Sep 2016 10:05
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"There are two types of referendum that have been held by the UK Government, pre-legislative (held before proposed legislation is passed) and post-legislative (held after legislation is passed). To date the previous three UK-wide referendums in 1975, 2011 and 2016 were all post-legislative. Referendums are not legally binding, so legally the Government can ignore the results; for example, even if the result of a pre-legislative referendum were a majority of "No" for a proposed law, Parliament could pass it anyway, because parliament is sovereign.
For any UK-wide referendum to be held legislation has to be passed by the UK Parliament for each vote to take place as there is no pre-determined format or voting franchise for any such vote however unlike a general election is no legal requirement for HM Government to not take any official position in any such vote and in 1975 under the then Prime Minister Harold Wilson formally recommended a "yes" vote and in 2016 formally recommended a "remain" vote (a decision which later partly led to the resignation of David Cameron as Prime Minister following the decision to "Leave the European Union" by the British electorate) but in the 2011 no official position was taken as the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government was split on the issue.
Legally, Parliament at any point in future could reverse legislation approved by referendum, because the concept of parliamentary sovereignty means no Parliament can prevent a future Parliament from amending or repealing legislation. However, reversing legislation approved by referendum would be unprecedented."
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It seems some referendum results can be overruled, but not the one's you agree with.
uuummmmh!
iturama
- 18 Sep 2016 10:46
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34.71% of the electorate voted to remain in the EU. Another useless statistic.
More interesting is the total electorate was 46,500,001. Now who is the 1? Fred will think it is him and no doubt loony Mourinho will think it is him. But who is it?
jimmy b
- 18 Sep 2016 11:27
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Thicko , we voted out and a huge number voted on immigration whether you like it or not ,but i suppose in your world they are all wrong too , get over it :))
Fred1new
- 18 Sep 2016 11:38
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Dumbo,
I think referendums held by Heath (a well-known tory) and Wilson showed a wish to to join and stay in the Europe block.
Surely, you can't turn the vote of a referendum over because it suits you?
Or can you?
jimmy b
- 18 Sep 2016 11:40
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God your thick .
2517GEORGE
- 18 Sep 2016 13:12
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Why I voted in back then and why I voted out on 23rd June is because of the huge undemocratic change in what was the Common Market. In it's current state there is absolutely no resemblance to what it was.
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grannyboy
- 18 Sep 2016 18:43
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I can't believe that the remainer's are now comparing the vote in the 70's
with the vote on the 23rd 2016 and hope to hoodwink the voters...LMAO!
Fred1new
- 18 Sep 2016 20:09
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The "exiters" were bitching for 40 + years, why shouldn't the "re-mainers" do the same?
grannyboy
- 18 Sep 2016 22:24
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"The 'exiters' were bitching for 40 + years,"
Yes and we had good reason...
Fred1new
- 19 Sep 2016 08:07
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So have the "remainers"!
VICTIM
- 19 Sep 2016 08:37
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There's one answer to this for you Freda , you are obsessed with the EU aren't you so why not go to your beloved France to live , surely the best solution . Or does Britain offer the security and freedom that's so priceless these days even though it's Riddled with " little englanders " and allows you to get on your anti English soapbox so often . I mean every effin day .
MaxK
- 19 Sep 2016 08:42
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La Belle France has a lot going for it, especially for the well heeled brit.
I wouldn't like to try it on benifits, which perhaps explains why they are lining up at Calais.
VICTIM
- 19 Sep 2016 08:48
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Which is worrying why we must be paying more than other countries and why are they not sorting this .
jimmy b
- 19 Sep 2016 08:51
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Surprisingly nobody comments on the bombing in New York , are we just getting used to it ?
cynic
- 19 Sep 2016 08:53
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i'm afraid it is something of a yawn which is no bad thing
massive reaction is the one thing these terrorist groups thrive on and clearly this bunch of loonies or whatever aren't getting it