Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Also, take you dark glasses off when you view TV programs on the EU and immigration.

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You complete muppet that's what most of the country voted out on , immigration !!

Manuel,

When I do so it is usually returning the compliments.

Besides some like you seem to becoming a little doddery and need all the help that can be given to them.
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Dumbo,

37.4% of the total electorate voted out in the referendum.

The rest voted to remain or didn't vote.

"37.4% of the total electorate voted out in the referendum."


I take the 52%, 17.4 million that DID vote to LEAVE as the official and
only one that mattered........

"There are two types of referendum that have been held by the UK Government, pre-legislative (held before proposed legislation is passed) and post-legislative (held after legislation is passed). To date the previous three UK-wide referendums in 1975, 2011 and 2016 were all post-legislative. Referendums are not legally binding, so legally the Government can ignore the results; for example, even if the result of a pre-legislative referendum were a majority of "No" for a proposed law, Parliament could pass it anyway, because parliament is sovereign.
For any UK-wide referendum to be held legislation has to be passed by the UK Parliament for each vote to take place as there is no pre-determined format or voting franchise for any such vote however unlike a general election is no legal requirement for HM Government to not take any official position in any such vote and in 1975 under the then Prime Minister Harold Wilson formally recommended a "yes" vote and in 2016 formally recommended a "remain" vote (a decision which later partly led to the resignation of David Cameron as Prime Minister following the decision to "Leave the European Union" by the British electorate) but in the 2011 no official position was taken as the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government was split on the issue.
Legally, Parliament at any point in future could reverse legislation approved by referendum, because the concept of parliamentary sovereignty means no Parliament can prevent a future Parliament from amending or repealing legislation. However, reversing legislation approved by referendum would be unprecedented."



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It seems some referendum results can be overruled, but not the one's you agree with.


uuummmmh!

34.71% of the electorate voted to remain in the EU. Another useless statistic.
More interesting is the total electorate was 46,500,001. Now who is the 1? Fred will think it is him and no doubt loony Mourinho will think it is him. But who is it?

Thicko , we voted out and a huge number voted on immigration whether you like it or not ,but i suppose in your world they are all wrong too , get over it :))

Dumbo,

I think referendums held by Heath (a well-known tory) and Wilson showed a wish to to join and stay in the Europe block.

Surely, you can't turn the vote of a referendum over because it suits you?

Or can you?

God your thick .

Why I voted in back then and why I voted out on 23rd June is because of the huge undemocratic change in what was the Common Market. In it's current state there is absolutely no resemblance to what it was.
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I can't believe that the remainer's are now comparing the vote in the 70's
with the vote on the 23rd 2016 and hope to hoodwink the voters...LMAO!

The "exiters" were bitching for 40 + years, why shouldn't the "re-mainers" do the same?

"The 'exiters' were bitching for 40 + years,"

Yes and we had good reason...

So have the "remainers"!

There's one answer to this for you Freda , you are obsessed with the EU aren't you so why not go to your beloved France to live , surely the best solution . Or does Britain offer the security and freedom that's so priceless these days even though it's Riddled with " little englanders " and allows you to get on your anti English soapbox so often . I mean every effin day .

La Belle France has a lot going for it, especially for the well heeled brit.

I wouldn't like to try it on benifits, which perhaps explains why they are lining up at Calais.

Which is worrying why we must be paying more than other countries and why are they not sorting this .

Surprisingly nobody comments on the bombing in New York , are we just getting used to it ?

i'm afraid it is something of a yawn which is no bad thing
massive reaction is the one thing these terrorist groups thrive on and clearly this bunch of loonies or whatever aren't getting it

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Three men have been detained in Paris today (24 September) after a teenager was allegedly gang raped underneath the Eiffel Tower.

The 19-year-old was lured to the Paris tourist attraction on Facebook, after making arrangements to go on a "date".

She had been exchanging messages with a man who she believed was a 17-year-old from North Africa. They first met close to her home in the Paris suburbs, however on Sunday night they arranged to meet at the Champs des Mars, near the Eiffel Tower.

As source close to the case said the victim was expecting a romantic evening with her date. "It was a warm night, and she expected to eat strawberries and grapes, and to drink Coke, but then the attack took place."

On arrival, the woman was reportedly met by three men. She was dragged underneath a bush, where a blanket had been laid out.

She was gagged and tied up before being brutally beaten and subjected to a horrifying sexual assault by the men.

A couple, who were jogging in the French capital early on Monday morning, discovered the victim naked and crying and in a state of shock. After the alarm was raised police used computer data to trace the three men to a hotel in the 18th arrondissement of Paris.

They were caught on Monday as they tried to flee to Germany.

The suspects reportedly told police claimed they were 17-year-olds from Tunisia, seeking asylum. However, official sources have revealed the men are Algerians who live in Germany.

"An enquiry is underway to try and work out exactly who they are, and what they were doing in France," said the source.

All the men deny rape, claiming they were involved in a "consensual adult relationship" with the woman. The three men have been remanded in custody as prosecutors and police continue a rape investigation Mail Online reports.

The victim, who is said to have recently run away from her mother's home in the Paris suburbs, is currently in the care of social services.

So they have nothing to do other than skip around Europe doing what they want with probable EU funding to do so . Wonder how many of those there are , and how many will get up to all sorts when they realise they are not wanted , ah la French suburbs filled with disillusioned youth .