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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 18 Sep 2016 11:27 - 5387 of 12628

Thicko , we voted out and a huge number voted on immigration whether you like it or not ,but i suppose in your world they are all wrong too , get over it :))

Fred1new - 18 Sep 2016 11:38 - 5388 of 12628

Dumbo,

I think referendums held by Heath (a well-known tory) and Wilson showed a wish to to join and stay in the Europe block.

Surely, you can't turn the vote of a referendum over because it suits you?

Or can you?

jimmy b - 18 Sep 2016 11:40 - 5389 of 12628

God your thick .

2517GEORGE - 18 Sep 2016 13:12 - 5390 of 12628

Why I voted in back then and why I voted out on 23rd June is because of the huge undemocratic change in what was the Common Market. In it's current state there is absolutely no resemblance to what it was.
2517

grannyboy - 18 Sep 2016 18:43 - 5391 of 12628

I can't believe that the remainer's are now comparing the vote in the 70's
with the vote on the 23rd 2016 and hope to hoodwink the voters...LMAO!

Fred1new - 18 Sep 2016 20:09 - 5392 of 12628

The "exiters" were bitching for 40 + years, why shouldn't the "re-mainers" do the same?

grannyboy - 18 Sep 2016 22:24 - 5393 of 12628

"The 'exiters' were bitching for 40 + years,"

Yes and we had good reason...

Fred1new - 19 Sep 2016 08:07 - 5394 of 12628

So have the "remainers"!

VICTIM - 19 Sep 2016 08:37 - 5395 of 12628

There's one answer to this for you Freda , you are obsessed with the EU aren't you so why not go to your beloved France to live , surely the best solution . Or does Britain offer the security and freedom that's so priceless these days even though it's Riddled with " little englanders " and allows you to get on your anti English soapbox so often . I mean every effin day .

MaxK - 19 Sep 2016 08:42 - 5396 of 12628

La Belle France has a lot going for it, especially for the well heeled brit.

I wouldn't like to try it on benifits, which perhaps explains why they are lining up at Calais.

VICTIM - 19 Sep 2016 08:48 - 5397 of 12628

Which is worrying why we must be paying more than other countries and why are they not sorting this .

jimmy b - 19 Sep 2016 08:51 - 5398 of 12628

Surprisingly nobody comments on the bombing in New York , are we just getting used to it ?

cynic - 19 Sep 2016 08:53 - 5399 of 12628

i'm afraid it is something of a yawn which is no bad thing
massive reaction is the one thing these terrorist groups thrive on and clearly this bunch of loonies or whatever aren't getting it

jimmy b - 19 Sep 2016 09:29 - 5400 of 12628

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Three men have been detained in Paris today (24 September) after a teenager was allegedly gang raped underneath the Eiffel Tower.

The 19-year-old was lured to the Paris tourist attraction on Facebook, after making arrangements to go on a "date".

She had been exchanging messages with a man who she believed was a 17-year-old from North Africa. They first met close to her home in the Paris suburbs, however on Sunday night they arranged to meet at the Champs des Mars, near the Eiffel Tower.

As source close to the case said the victim was expecting a romantic evening with her date. "It was a warm night, and she expected to eat strawberries and grapes, and to drink Coke, but then the attack took place."

On arrival, the woman was reportedly met by three men. She was dragged underneath a bush, where a blanket had been laid out.

She was gagged and tied up before being brutally beaten and subjected to a horrifying sexual assault by the men.

A couple, who were jogging in the French capital early on Monday morning, discovered the victim naked and crying and in a state of shock. After the alarm was raised police used computer data to trace the three men to a hotel in the 18th arrondissement of Paris.

They were caught on Monday as they tried to flee to Germany.

The suspects reportedly told police claimed they were 17-year-olds from Tunisia, seeking asylum. However, official sources have revealed the men are Algerians who live in Germany.

"An enquiry is underway to try and work out exactly who they are, and what they were doing in France," said the source.

All the men deny rape, claiming they were involved in a "consensual adult relationship" with the woman. The three men have been remanded in custody as prosecutors and police continue a rape investigation Mail Online reports.

The victim, who is said to have recently run away from her mother's home in the Paris suburbs, is currently in the care of social services.

VICTIM - 19 Sep 2016 09:44 - 5401 of 12628

So they have nothing to do other than skip around Europe doing what they want with probable EU funding to do so . Wonder how many of those there are , and how many will get up to all sorts when they realise they are not wanted , ah la French suburbs filled with disillusioned youth .

Fred1new - 19 Sep 2016 10:02 - 5402 of 12628

Dumbo,

Did you enjoy posting p5401?

Does it substantiate your opinions of others?

jimmy b - 19 Sep 2016 10:21 - 5403 of 12628

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Fred1new - 19 Sep 2016 11:18 - 5404 of 12628

I think that remark would be better applied to yourself.

I question the reason for you reporting or highlighting the incident this particular "rape" incident.

It seems to me to echo the Fascist hatred of Jews in the 30s to instigate fear and develop false unity in their followers, or perhaps the techniques of Trump and his adherents.

That is rabble rousing.

Mind the above is just my opinion which at the moment I am still allowed.



VICTIM - 19 Sep 2016 11:24 - 5405 of 12628

Your funny Freda , how do you keep a straight face .

jimmy b - 19 Sep 2016 11:32 - 5406 of 12628

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