proptrade
- 22 Jan 2004 11:27
i was wondering if anyone out there had any strong views? this company appears to be delivering and has just turned EBITA positive after a great trading statement last week. seems like upside to +200p once results are out.
any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.
proptrade
- 10 Jun 2005 15:54
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cable and wireless have got the horn...possibly a bidder out there
gavdfc
- 10 Jun 2005 15:58
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Well if thats the case then it may get the sector moving. Whatevers moving ESY up I approve of! Makes it a better end to the week anyway.
proptrade
- 10 Jun 2005 16:05
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indeed it does!
gavdfc
- 10 Jun 2005 16:21
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Just found this, may have something to do with todays rise here:
Dresdner Kleinwort reiterates buy Cable & Wireless (CW.L).
proptrade
- 10 Jun 2005 17:19
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That was out alot earlier....I thing it is to do with France Tel govt placement out the way and now management is free to look at aquisitions. supposedly Wanadoo (owned by France Tel) is shopping for a broadband supplier. ESY is in the frame according to ABN.
proptrade
- 21 Jun 2005 09:04
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time to flog my old bull story again. up 6p on no news with Ofcomm any day now. keep it on your screens buy!
rgds
PT
crockham
- 21 Jun 2005 09:10
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PT
do you mean your ESY story is a lot of bull (lol)
proptrade
- 21 Jun 2005 09:12
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if you read my previous posts that was the exact message i was portraying with a slither of hope that it could finally be true!
REDHILL
- 21 Jun 2005 09:13
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No this is up on news in the Times that france telecom may be interested.
proptrade
- 21 Jun 2005 09:41
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cheers fo that, just seen it. ABN said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. I wholeheartily agree. C&W comes with baggage on top of baggage. ESY is a clean, cheap decent footprint in the UK and Europe broadband mkt.
bring on Ofcomm and that will clear the way (with Wanadoo doing the bidding - 100% owned by france tel).
hilary
- 21 Jun 2005 10:08
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I'd be surprised if the foothold that ESY have got within the BT exchanges is large enough to be of interest to France Telecom.
proptrade
- 21 Jun 2005 10:55
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would you now...the rationale is the build out potential and the fact that already have the systems and infastructure in place to roll out to the rest of the country.
the trigger will be the "landgrab" by guys like Wanadoo (aka France Tel) after the Ofcomm announcement.
ESY is the ONLY company outside BT to have a footprint (which C&W is now building and pushing through Bulldog). Also the 10 billion BT is spending on a 21CN, ESY has ALREADY put one in.
You can't expect ESY to be all encompassing yet but it is the ONLY contender to BT and managed to force BT to lower its wholesale charges to their ISP clients by 42% after ESY was undercutting them by 30% for 6 months. clearly the thorn in BT's side is having the desired effect.
I think if France Tel was not as entrenched in the UK with Wanadoo I would agree that it was just a spurious unsubstantialted rumour BUT there is a legitimate economic advantage and synergies to be gained.
Roll on Ofcomm and we shall see if the rumours carry on...i would not be surprised to see a bid emerge prior to the annoucement to try and snap up the company on the cheap....
rgds
PT
hilary
- 21 Jun 2005 11:16
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The problem is though, Proptrade, that ESY have had access to the BT exchanges for around 5 years or so now. In that time they've not really made that great an inroad, probably due to a combination of under capitalisation and the obstacles to local loop unbundling which have been laid down by BT all along the way.
BT operate an effective monopoly in everything but name.
You're now starting to see wholesale DSL charges fall and you have to seriously question the ability of the telco tiddlers to compete against BT who have had the infrastructure in place for many years. Sure, France Telecom could probably provide the funding to roll it out so much quicker, but would they really want to go down that avenue? You've only got to recall the Telewest, NTL and Atlantic Telecom fiascos of recent years to realise that, if they've got any sense, France Telecom will steer well clear.
Don't get me wrong. I think that ESY have an interesting business model which I would like to see work. I know people on UK Online who have no complaints whatsoever. Unfortunately, those people are on exchanges which have not yet undergone local loop unbundling (and there are no plans currently for unbundling), so ESY are having to pay BT wholesale and is having to make what few scraps it can.
proptrade
- 21 Jun 2005 11:29
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Hilary, you have made some very interesting and correct points but the key to this success and the reason why i have banged on about these for a while is that the Ofcomm announcement should pave the way for ISP's to own their own last mile and therefore take BT 100% out of the equasion.
We will then see a "landgrab" of limited space in the exchages but the lucky few will enhance their own business models by owning their own network at a more competitive price than BT and potentially lease to other ISP's.
Also, as stated before, ESY's network is already far supior to BT's where they operate. The fact that BT is only starting to place the 21CN with huge fanfare...ESY already has installed that network!
ESY is uniquely placed at the moment to be snapped up and is miles ahead of the game. This is not a ramp, it really is a fact. Maybe C&W build out and take the second place over the next 3 years but at the moment if you serious about UK broadband and want to have control of a ready made (and growing) network that would be able to roll out 24MB speed by Septemeber (forget 8MB!), then ESY is a tasty morsel.
Multimedia is the byword of this century and for that you need capacity. ESY offers that and i think with a postive Ofcomm (which is the risk of course) we should see a decent bounce.
Hilary, you know I enjoy our banter and am delighted you share an interest in this stock. I have made and lost money in this over the years but feel that after a decent consolidation and a company with management that has repeatedly delivered on it promises this stock is ripe for takeover or at least rumour that could lift it back to 100p.
Rgds
PT
proptrade
- 29 Jun 2005 17:29
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Ofcomm tomorrow...make or break time!
rgds
PT
proptrade
- 04 Jul 2005 12:39
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good contarct win today...quid soon!!!?????
gavdfc
- 04 Jul 2005 15:37
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Well hopefully before Christmas!!!
proptrade
- 16 Aug 2005 14:04
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a snippet from
http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_972008.html
C&W Deal Likely To Kickstart Consolidation
Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:22:47 AM ET
Dow Jones Newswires
1204 GMT [Dow Jones]--C&W (CWP) buys Energis (EGS.YY) for an initial cash consideration of GBP594M. Analyst says deal creates a stronger number 2 in the UK, which isn't great news for BT (BT) and also widens the gap between the top two and the smaller altnets. Says it is likely to force further UK consolidation of the likes of Thus (THUS.LN), Kingston (KCOM.LN), Fibernet (FIB.LN), Easynet (ESY.LN), Colt (COLT) and others. But it is unlikely to push valuations up as these deals will be done with survival in mind. Even private equity money has shied away from most small UK altnets so far. C&W -4.9% at 155p. (NPF)
joehargan1
- 17 Aug 2005 12:41
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Key is the comment on valuation - rationalistaion will be done to create long term viability not value. I see only little upside in speculating in the others right now, ESY included. Fraught with more risks than upside for me.
proptrade
- 17 Aug 2005 14:10
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fair enough but broadband battle is just in mid flow and the real fight will be over customers and price. ESY's deliverable is ALREADY developed whereas C&W and BT are now investing in the same systems. recent wins by ESY could see them snapped up by a european or even US suitor.
i remain bullish and hand on to a 150p target in the near term