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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 16:20 - 53917 of 81564

Yep LOL Hays, who cares anyway Labour and the SNP will be far more left wing and will get some much needed socialist policies back into Britain.

Itl be Milly as PM and Salmond as Deputy PM, a fine line up and we arent half going to be taxing the Tories.

We'l show you what austerity is, selective austerity for Tory rich twits.

And most of all we'l clobber the 'Pale Ale Tories' (opposite of champagne socialists) and really put them in there place you know the type I mean........Carson and co.

WATCH OUT TORY BOYS.

2517GEORGE - 30 Dec 2014 16:39 - 53918 of 81564

Labour top rate of tax was 40% for most of their time in government, they cynically raised it to 50% just before the Tories took over, to give the electorate the impression that any cuts to this rate was Tory looking after toffs.
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goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 16:45 - 53919 of 81564

And the Tories put it back down to 45%(edit) just before the Local Elections and at a time when millions are in poverty and need the help of food banks.

Osbourne sits on a £30 billion pound National Insurance Surplus but hospitals are at breaking point, benefits are hitting the poor very hard.

Shame on the Tories........ shame.

goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 16:47 - 53920 of 81564

The 11 most senseless benefit sanction decisions known to man.......

Benefit sanctions, where a job centre can suspend or dock a claimant’s welfare payments, are becoming increasingly controversial.

The impact of the sanctions vary: in the most extreme cases a person can lose their benefits for three years. Reasons for withdrawing benefits can range to being late for a meeting, failing to turn up on time, or leaving several jobs voluntarily.

In the wake of a diabetic ex-soldier dying after his benefits were sanctioned and three disgruntled ex-DWP civil servants going rogue to help welfare claimants who believe their payments have been wrongly docked, we look at the most ridiculous reasons for sanctioning benefits yet.

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A man with heart problems who was on Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) had a heart attack during a work capability assessment. He was then sanctioned for failing to complete the assessment.

Via Debbie Abrahams MP.

A man who had gotten a job that was scheduled to begin in two weeks’ time was sanctioned for not looking for work as he waited for the role to start.

Via the Guardian.

Army veteran Stephen Taylor, 60, whose Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) was stopped after he sold poppies in memory of fallen soldiers.

Via the Daily Mirror.

A man had to miss his regular appointment at the job centre to attend his father’s funeral. He was sanctioned even though he told DWP staff in advance.

Via Political Scrapbook.

Ceri Padley, 26, had her benefits sanctioned after she missed an appointment at the jobcentre - because she was at a job interview.

Via the Daily Mail.

A man got sanctioned for missing his slot to sign on - as he was attending a work programme interview. He was then sanctioned as he could not afford to travel for his job search.

Via Citizen’s Advice.

Sean Halkyward, 24, said his benefits were sanctioned because he looked for too many jobs in one week.

Via Pontefract and Castleford Express

Mother-of-three Angie Godwin, 27, said her benefits were sanctioned after she applied for a role job centre staff said was beyond her.

Via Get Reading.

Sofya Harrison was sanctioned for attending a job interview and moving her signing-on to another day.

Via the Guardian.

Michael, 54, had his benefits sanctioned for four months for failing to undertake a week’s work experience at a charity shop. The charity shop had told him they didn’t want him there.

Via the Guardian.

Terry Eaton, 58, was sanctioned because he didn’t have the bus fare he needed to attend an appointment with the job centre.

Via the Guardian.

2517GEORGE - 30 Dec 2014 16:47 - 53921 of 81564

Top rate of tax is 45% gf
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cynic - 30 Dec 2014 16:50 - 53922 of 81564

other than perhaps psychologically a thoughtless move, i see no link between the tax cut and the need for food banks

also, whether or not there is a cash pile, it is not remotely the solution to the undoubted probs there are in NHS
as already written, those probs have been building for well over decade and have a myriad of causes
throwing money does not miraculously create nurses nor properly qualified and experienced doctors
i suspect there are technically plenty of physical beds available, but more a distinct lack of qualified personnel to operate them

goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 16:52 - 53923 of 81564

OK 45% whats 5% to the wealthiest in this country.

Most didnt even know the tax change had gone ahead.

Instead of spending it like the poor it just builds up in Bank Accounts .......what good is that to the economy.

2517GEORGE - 30 Dec 2014 16:56 - 53924 of 81564

The point is that under the Tories the top rate of tax was higher than it was for almost the entire 13 years of Labour Government.
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goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 17:03 - 53925 of 81564

Ahhhhhhh but its not the rate that counts, its the TAX TAKE that balances the coffers.

Why do you think borrowing as gone up so much under the Tories..........because tax take does not equal revenue spend. (2 million Mickey Mouse jobs.)

And at a higher rate the Tories were just as they are now evading tax and the Tory governments know that.

goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 17:04 - 53926 of 81564

Shame on the Tories SLEAZY SLEAZY SLEAZY.

doodlebug4 - 30 Dec 2014 17:07 - 53927 of 81564

One of the major problems with the NHS is there are far too many chiefs and not enough Indians and it will not make much difference how much money is pumped in until that is stopped.

2517GEORGE - 30 Dec 2014 17:09 - 53928 of 81564

Let's hope those truthful, honest, caring Labour MP's don't get to hear of that, save they succomb to the same.
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cynic - 30 Dec 2014 17:15 - 53929 of 81564

DB4 - and from where will you get the qualified doctors and nurses? .....

it takes 10 years before a starting medic student can become a qualified GP .... 5 years at medic school and then another 5 years to gain the subsequent knowledge and required qualifications

it takes 3 years to become a basic qualified RGN, and i'm sure a good number of years thereafter to move further up the scale

Fred1new - 30 Dec 2014 17:15 - 53930 of 81564

DB4,

But the tories are trying to stop immigration.

8-)

Fred1new - 30 Dec 2014 17:15 - 53931 of 81564

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doodlebug4 - 30 Dec 2014 17:17 - 53932 of 81564

Borrowing went up when Brown & Balls screwed up the economy in the first place.

doodlebug4 - 30 Dec 2014 17:19 - 53933 of 81564

Cynic, I'm talking about all the executives within the NHS you Muppet.

Fred1new - 30 Dec 2014 17:21 - 53934 of 81564

But of course Cameron and Osborne have waved their magic wands and improved the situation by peeing over it.

goldfinger - 30 Dec 2014 17:22 - 53935 of 81564

LOL Fred. Cornered him again.

cynic - 30 Dec 2014 17:31 - 53936 of 81564

i read what YOU wrote, but even if you sacked every manager, you would not create any more doctors and nurses

also
a huge amount of time is now taken up by filling in regulatory forms and bits of paper, most of which probably have little practical value other than in avoiding litigation and showing how "efficient" the trust is
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