Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Cyners use the Halifax for house prices in the North not the Nationwide.

I'm thinking about taking the Christmas decorations down and have this same trouble every year.

ie. When is 'Twelfth Night'?

My research tells me it is the 5th January:

26/12
27/12
28/12
29/12
30/12
31/12
1/1
2/1
3/1
4/1
5/1

Hmmm? I guess I should have started at 25/12, which I think should be the 0th night, not the 1st night.

Anyone know any other better answers as to why 'Twelfth Night' is the 5th January and not the 6th?

The answer is that there are several traditions. If you stick to the CoE rules, it is the 5th as Christmas is the first, being when the three wise men came. There are other versions up to 17th Jan.

If you are like me and think it is all a load of twaddle then twelfth night can be any day you like.

markets for 2015
fascist gazette (aka telegraph) well worth reading today
excellent article by Questor and another on Saudi forcing down the oil price
either may stop some getting too gung-ho about the market prospects for 2015

I read an article yesterday suggesting a possible oil price of $20.

Found it

http://www.infowars.com/who-is-behind-the-oil-war-and-how-low-will-the-price-of-crude-go-in-2015/

54193 - i misinterpreted (nationwide) north as meaning "north midlands" ..... i wonder why nationwide and halifax diverge on this

Could I bring myself to eat a guinea pig?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22812158

you might in peru :-)

I thought we was running out of the stuff (oil), now it appears we are swimming in it.

supply and demand = no demand = what happened to business is booming?

relative to the rest of europe, uk is booming, even on the m'facturing side and is doing about as well as usa
however, china has slowed down markedly, and therein lies the key

i'm not sure how important russia is, but as well publicised, it is now a complete basket case
if i have read correctly, about 40% of the russian economy is reliant on oil
russian oil costs ~$50 to get out of the ground and closer to $75 in the arctic ..... now add the royalties, and the price goes to $70/80

Cyners from personal experience how well do chemical companys do with low oil prices. ??

this looking to break up..........

don't know ... i'm too young to remember that far back :-)

in honesty, all countries are currently at sixes and sevens not only from low oil prices but also because the chinese economy has slowed down considerably
the result of this is bad all round
though a low oil price should (must) make petro-chemicals cheaper, if there isn't a demand, then it's not a great help

i'm afraid i don't know much about synthomer either, though of course "we" are only interested in the direction of sp

Hmmmmm thanks for that, yep last trading statement wasnt brilliant but charts going in a bullish fashion.

Will have a think.

as you will have noticed, i'm almost bearish about the markets in general

I would call that being prudent.

i'll let you know if i make any money :-)

Good luck if you are dabling the latest version of the great game