Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
fahel
- 26 Jun 2011 11:00
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WHY DO YOU KILL ZAID?
And this is only for few years how about 60+ years with a daily Israeli murders?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oh1DDFx6Kk
TANKER
- 27 Jun 2011 15:13
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muslim men tie bomb to child to take to police station .
sorry muslim not men but subhumans
fahel
- 28 Jun 2011 12:11
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United Church Presbytery Group Launches Boycott Divestment Campaign against Israel
http://www.bdsmovement.net/2011/united-church-presbytery-7322
fahel
- 28 Jun 2011 12:12
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Support the U.S. Boat to Gaza: Deliver Hillary Petition; Change your Facebook/Twitter Icon
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/audacityofhope/supportactions#deliver
fahel
- 28 Jun 2011 12:34
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Getting on board with peace in Israel
An Israeli American explains why she will be among many boat passengers trying to break through Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.
By Hagit Borer
June 26, 2011
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Later this month an American ship, the Audacity of Hope, will leave Greece on a journey to the Gaza Strip to attempt to break Israel's blockade. It will join an expected nine other ships flying numerous flags and carrying hundreds of passengers from around the world. I will be one of those passengers.
I am an Israeli Jewish American. I was born in Israel, and I grew up in a very different Jerusalem from the one today. The Jerusalem of my childhood was a smallish city of white-stone neighborhoods nestled in the elbows of hills. Near the center, next to the central post office, the road swerved sharply to the left because straight ahead stood a big wall, and on the other side of it was "them."
And then, on June 9, 1967, the wall came down. Elsewhere, Israeli troops were still fighting what came to be known as the Six-Day War, but on June 9, as a small crowd stood and watched, demolition crews brought down the barrier wall, and after it, all other buildings that had stood between my Jerusalem and the walls of the Old City, their Jerusalem. A few weeks later a wide road would lead from my Jerusalem to theirs, bearing the victors' name: Paratroopers Way.
A soldier helped me sneak into the Old City. Snipers were still at large and the city was closed to Israeli civilians. By the Western Wall, a myth to me until then, the Israeli army was already evicting Palestinian residents in the dead of night and demolishing all houses within 1,000 feet. Eventually, the area would turn into the huge open paved space it is today, a place where only last month, on Jerusalem Day, masses of Israeli youths chanted "Muhammad is dead" and "May your villages burn."
It is a different Jerusalem now. It is not their Jerusalem, for it has been taken from them. Every day the Palestinians of Jerusalem are further strangled by more incursions, by more "housing developments" to cut them off from other Palestinians. In Sheik Jarrah, a neighborhood built by Jordan in the 1950s to house refugees, Palestinian families recently have been evicted from their homes at gunpoint based on court-sanctioned documents purporting to show Jewish land ownership in the area dating back some 100 years. But no Palestinian proof of ownership within West Jerusalem has ever prevailed in Israeli courts. Talbieh, Katamon, Baca, until 1948 affluent Palestinian neighborhoods, are today almost exclusively Jewish, with no legal recourse for the Palestinians who recently raised families and lived their lives there.
In his speech on Jerusalem Day, Yitzhak Pindrus, the deputy mayor of Jerusalem, assured a cheering crowd of the ongoing commitment to expanding the Jewish neighborhood of Shimon Hatzadik, as Sheik Jarrah has been renamed.
This is not my Jerusalem. The tens of thousands of jeering youths that swarmed through its streets on Jerusalem Day have taken the city from me as well. That they speak my native tongue is almost impossible for me to believe, for there is nothing about them or about the society that gave birth to them that I recognize.
Did we know in 1967, in 1948, that it would come to this? Some did. Some knew even then that a society built on conquest and dispossession would have to dehumanize the conquered in order to continue to dispossess and oppress them. A 1948 letter to the New York Times signed by Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt, among others, foretells much of the future. Martin Buber did not spare David Ben-Gurion, the first prime minister of Israel, his perspective on the expulsion of the Palestinians in 1948-49.
But too many others, including members of the U.S. Congress who recently cheered Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, are determined to not hold the Israeli government responsible or the Israeli-Jewish society culpable.
Let us note that some Israeli Jews do stand up and protest. There are soldiers who refuse to serve, journalists who highlight injustice, and human rights organizations, activist groups, information centers. In a sense, all of us seeking justice have been on a virtual boat to Gaza all these decades. We have been trying to break through the Israeli blockade, in its many incarnations. We wish to say to the Palestinians that, yes, there are people in Israel who know that any viable future for the Middle East must be based on a just peace not the forced imposition spelled out by Netanyahu to Congress or else we are all doomed. We want it known that the soldier is not the only face of Israeli Jews. There are those who say to the government of Israel, "You do not represent us." We say to the people of the United States in general and to American Jews in particular that yes, you do have an alternative. You can support peace. A true peace.
Hagit Borer moved from Israel to the United States to study in 1977. She became an American citizen in 1992 and is currently a professor of linguistics at USC.
Copyright 2011, Los Angeles Times
TANKER
- 28 Jun 2011 12:36
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robert naiman do you know what king of man he is .
well it is not good .alice walker wants to look closer to her own family
gaza is terrorist state murderers and they put there children on the front line cowards are wht they are
TANKER
- 28 Jun 2011 12:38
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they do not want peace it would mean the lazy nation would have to work instead of begging
TANKER
- 28 Jun 2011 12:50
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donate money to israel not terrorists which hamas is and they voted for terrorist so that makesthem all the same murderers
TANKER
- 28 Jun 2011 15:19
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ex . hamas hate every one even there own .
they say begging is better than working
In The Land of the B
- 28 Jun 2011 15:33
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I asked some time ago if anyone actually read the propaganda fahel and the parrot posted.
I guessed there would be a handful out of the hundreds who read this board.
NOT one person has said they read the copy and paste crap these characters post.
I can just see fahel screaming with rage, emptily into the ether, only churning out hatred of Jews and, like his parrot friend having no conception of peace and reconciliation; and the parrot baby, to mix metaphors, in his nappy banging his little fists in frustration and fury at being ignored, impotent tears flooding out.
Never mind you ignored nazis, freddiefewbrains might be reading your posts......
In The Land of the B
- 28 Jun 2011 15:44
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..........even he is too ashamed to admit to it LOL
Fred1new
- 28 Jun 2011 16:01
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Steamboat.
Your love for everybody, other than yourself, is plainly obvious.
I would think the BNP will accept you with open arms.
You may feel at home with them, but be careful what they hold in their hands.
aldwickk
- 28 Jun 2011 18:59
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If i was you i would be more worried what Fred would be holding in his hand
Fred1new
- 28 Jun 2011 20:26
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Aids seems to need help again.
I thought it would be too early for most people to be drunk!
Perhaps, he has different problems.
TANKER
- 29 Jun 2011 08:33
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fred . you are a sub human by what you post .
do your self a favour and end it all
Fred1new
- 29 Jun 2011 10:05
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Steamboat,
Thanks for your obvious concern and opinion and advice.
But, the world seems pretty good to me this morning.
But, I see Clarke is trying to bring in a new "vigilante" law, which should appeal to you and the looney right of the tory party.
Should lift you spirits a little.
Haystack
- 29 Jun 2011 15:00
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-has-no-way-of-stopping-mass-non-violent-protest-in-west-bank-1.370322
'IDF has no way of stopping mass non-violent protest in West Bank'
IDF conducts drills in preparation for potential uprising in wake of Palestinian bid to seek UN recognition in September.
As September draws nearer, the Israel Defense Forces has been conducting drills in order to contend with the possibility of a mass civilian uprising in the West Bank in the wake of the Palestinian bid to seek unilateral recognition in the United Nations.
"A non-violent protest of 4,000 people or more, even if they only march to a checkpoint or a settlement, and especially if the Palestinian police does not deter them, will be unstoppable," one IDF officer claims. "Such a great number of determined people cannot be stopped by tear gas and rubber bullets."
Another high ranking IDF official serving in the territories claimed that "if we are to face protests similar to those in Egypt or Tunisia, we will not be able to do a thing."
TANKER
- 29 Jun 2011 15:17
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fred i am omiscient and can tell you to go to the doctors you have cancer .do not delay