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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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Saturn6 - 31 Jul 2013 19:04 - 542 of 1034

$Silver - up against that green average resistance again - Remember if it gets above there today at the close we will have a better looking 'HArami' print for the month of July...

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gazkaz - 31 Jul 2013 19:59 - 543 of 1034

Sahara - seems there are around 30,000 bees in the average "small hive"
("Rodney Oakley moved 30,000 bees, the amount typically found in a small hive")
- that bumps it up to 300,000 million bees lost :o(

Haven't seen a honey bee in our garden for last 3yrs - but plently of the bumble bees.

I think the fact that probably the last USDA recognised leading etimology and specialist firm in the world on - bee colony collapse - got...bought by Monsanto (something like beeLogic around 2011 from memory),
- says a lot.

They just buy up any opposition (Mafia style - offers that can't be refused etc).

Any court cases and they can wheel in all the leading recognised (effectively in house) experts, literally by...the bus load.

Whilst GM plants - with their genetically inbuilt insecticides & herbicides on board, will definitely feed on to the bee chain via their pollen, the abscence of GM crops in Europe (although GM potato's got the green light ...for animal feed, but can you spot the difference and we...eat the animals) - suggests that the insecticides and herbicides mentioned in the article play a big part as discussed in the article.

All the traditional "cheap" insect/herb icides, get discontinued
(Like Creosote tuppence a gallon and last years got "the cancer scare" replacement by £20 a tin versions - apply every year. Or Weedkiller - Sodium chlorate tuppence a bucketfull and nothing grows for 6m got discontinued because it can be used in making LaBombas etc - replaced by £4/5 a small bottle sprays).

Farmers can only buy what's available in the herb/pest icides market - and the market is .....monsanto and cartel (and their expensive patentable concoctions),
- of which glyphosate plays a big role
- it destroys the soil microflora
- which then changes the plants - and then both get into the pollen
- it gets into run off water
- which then gets extracted from rivers and streams by farmers and sprayed back on crops and back into pollen
- and it gets into humans too (Dr mercola.com covers that & very well)

On top of the popular angle - all life on the planet is bio electro/magnetic in nature
- there is good research that EMF from digital transmissions, Phone cell towers and the miriad of other sources not only disrupt humans ...but bees and other life too.

Tried the experiment - grow on two plants from seed - then put one near a wireless router and the othe in a similar light/heat location well away from the router
- shame that "a" plant was killed - in the experiment (no need to guess which)
- did the same with 2 plants one fed tap water - the other water previously microwaved
- unfortunately - one - died

Also read a good account that as the bees
- also use the sun to navigate - then the chemtrail blurring milky haze of the sky could be a further unhelpful bee related factor, as well as disrupting natural light spectrums (eg ultraviolet range etc) used by the bees.

All in all the bees join..us on.... the receiving end of TPTB war on..... everybody & everthing..else,
- that stands in the way of their...objectives.

gazkaz - 31 Jul 2013 20:28 - 544 of 1034

Alex - if you still have faith in paper
- the only silver ETFs with much credibility as to actual physical silver backing are

Central Fund of Canada Silver & Sprott silver fund
(No idea if ISA-ble tho')

That said - Sprott keeps his silver at the ROYAL Canadian Mint (A crown corporation & Crown = Bankster families controlled ..as indeed Canada itself is - long story...just googly Canadian Crown Corporations for a list just by way of a circumstantial hint...quite suprising how many...pages.. of them there are).

As to anything held paperwise (electronic on screen record broker/nominee held etc)
- they can be borrowed - see my post above re GLD shares
- they can be hypothecated & re-hypothecated - the MF Global experience

or paper can be....

Cyprussed - shareholder wipe out, bond-holder wipeout, above 100,000 euro depositors -80% wipeout

Greeked - Sovereign Gov't debt holders 80+% - wipeout

UK Co-op'ed - bond holders - 80% wipeout

So i will leave my thoughts as to paper investments
- with just those comments.


And a chart illustrating what Johnny Foreigners opinion of ....US Treasury.... paper
is....
- getting the hell ...(discreetly without crashing the price)....out of dodge perhaps


gazkaz - 31 Jul 2013 23:53 - 545 of 1034

Just 7 mins.... and worth watching on several counts
- major one
- Glyphosate residues are being found - EXCEEDING safe levels
- However the EPA is taking - swift action
- By.....

- INCREASING the ...existing...permited residue ..."safe levels"
- by up to.....a factor of....3,000
- making the new revised - safe acceptable levels
- up to 3,000 x higher,..... than the existing safe levels





snurkle1 - 01 Aug 2013 08:28 - 546 of 1034

Coin invest have changed the lay out on their web site.
No more 'best value'
and split in pages

Can't say I think it has improved

Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 09:35 - 547 of 1034

Gaz - If the decline of bees CCD (Colony Collapse Disorder) was planned that would explain the need for gene banks and the reclusive Svalbard seed vault (NorGen) near the North Pole financed by Norwegian Gov't and GCDT (Global Crop Diversity Trust) Which has Gates name and money all over it.

I smirked-wryly when the strongest earthquake in Norwegian history hit the Svalbard Archipelago just after the seed vault was fully commissioned and a week before the Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and the then EC President Barroso were to perform the official opening ceremony. ))

http://my.opera.com/nielsol/blog/2008/03/01/svalbard-earthquake

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gazkaz - 01 Aug 2013 09:42 - 548 of 1034

Jim Willie interviewed by S/Doc





He called Barclays - "problems" correctly - now public
- a hole in it's capital needs... requiring a huge multi-billion rights issue
(generally that is descibed out here in the real world as.....insolvency)

He has also mentioned Deutsche & Citi as in the same boat
- goes into great detail, as to if/when..... Deutsche goes .....(Think Lehman/AIG x multiple SHTF scenario)
- Interesting comments - on Interpol raiding Deutsche bank's CEO office
(CEO ousted & vice presidents being - indicted....and doing deals with interpol)

JPM - not yet delivered on it's way back ....June deliveries...of silver
JPM - buying up ....90% of comex SILVER delivery contracts....and having them delivered...into London

Allocated gold accounts raided and taken - up to 60,000 tons
- The wealthy unable to... get their gold out of Swiss banks
- A friends former colleague now - guarding f/knox
(will let you guess what he says in ...in there)
- Morgan Stanley - stalling & delivering.....allocated metal.....with "different serial No's - to those that were...deposited"
- Metal holders - being told you can't have your metal.....read the fine print (Settlement may be made - in cash - dependent on our business conditions)
.......and a lot more !

Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 09:52 - 549 of 1034

We got the end of month print and it was....Ta Da....An 'Harami Doji'...

Which being right at support has the potential to form a bottom. We need to see this candle followed by an upside candle for confirmation. And as we are entering into the seasonally bullish time-frame of August it could well be that we see a big white candle on this chart?/...

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snurkle1 - 01 Aug 2013 09:52 - 550 of 1034

Having done and continuing the colloidal silver experiment, which has now turned into the norm, the latest experiment going on in the office right now are.......
wait for it........

tower busters

I had never heard of it before, but when I came back from my 10 days away, the guys have picked this up and are running 100 miles an hour with it. They are now into making these themselves.

It all sounds pretty amazing stuff and it seems I have a bit of catching up to do.
This might be a good place to start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HGEhg5VMPw

Amazing what they get up to when it's quiet at the office.

Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 10:06 - 551 of 1034

Miners - May have completed Wave-4 and Wave-5 should take us to the 30 area resistance...

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gazkaz - 01 Aug 2013 10:48 - 552 of 1034

A point - made in the closing incidental remarks at the end of the above interview
- Willie points out on - silver
- if you add up all the US & Canadian mint coin production
- it "exceeds" - the total US & Canadian silver mined - by 25 million oz
(I read recently the figures they produce is just - bullion coins - it doesn't include - all the silver proof & sets & commemorative issues)
- so there is a shortfall - before ...all the US & Canadian industrial demand

Then (deserves a drum roll imo)
- the Doc mentions - they sell "generic private mint - silver - rounds e.g buffalo rounds etc"
- on a ratio of 3 : 1 compared to... silver eagles

- so if you took an educated guess - at what volume of silver....all - the private mints ....are producing
- and add it... - to the above existing 25m oz mined/official coin....shortfall
- Gets interesting doesn't it !!

Add in - the switch in demand towards silver - generated by India's gold import restrictions
- and now (as Snurkle highlighted) - Pakistans "temporary" Gold import block - may also - boost silver investment demand
- and couple that with JPM - being well overdue with its June silver comex deliveries
- and buying 90% of comex silver buy...contracts
- it gets more interesting !!

As Snurkle and I have discussed before - the official annual precious metals book (i forget its name) - always shows silver supply and demand "uncannily in perfect balance...every year
(basically because they know production, and, they know industrial demand...so in effect they just - put - investment demand in....as a balancing figure)
- so unlike gold
- in silver - there is no - equivalent of the former "London Gold Pool" or now seemingly...B of E custody leasable gold pool :o)

LBMA - silver is fractionalised at least 100 : 1 (so no real silver there either)

That just leaves..... comex silver supplies
( Big fine for JPM charging storage & insurance on silver....they hadn't even purchased for customers.....perhaps gives an indication
- of the likelihood of any real metal being there)

And it leaves - ETF...SLV as the only other sizeable....reserve of real metal
(I give credit to Sprotts silver actually being there....but not ...in play in the game)

Generally most commentators consider SLV physical - long gone.

So as we have discussed - it's looking more and more like - silver
- is the real achilles heel

Silver has a zillion uses already
- they have just discovered silver boosts antibiotic performace considerably
(if they missed out the antibiotics and just used the silver - then imo it would far exceed antibiotic performance :)

- and as posted recently the expected move to more solar power will only increase further...silver demand
- yet...the US Geological Society - put out a report a few years back that...
- they expected silver deposits were forecast to be exausted
- by the early 2020's

In concluding M'Lud
- I will express a purely circumstantial point of conjecture - re the potential of silver also being
- the achillies heel
- that is.... the cabal owned MSM distraction
- Precious metals - no, no don't look at silver.....look here Gold Headline, Gold Interview, Gold Article...gold, gold, gold....


Well that's all with regard to me connecting some - diverse and disparate dots fwiw

gazkaz - 01 Aug 2013 10:59 - 553 of 1034

Snurkle
- tower busters and orgone are all based on ....William Reichs cloudbuster
- it worked
- well worth reading up - on his work & cloudbuster.

Incidentally - the great pyramid - is predominantly granite....lots of...crystaline silicon - also lots of evidence - underground water beneath it ...and erosion of the sphinx...water surrounding it.

In particular connect that to Reich's cloudbuster....... & the tower buster ingredients :o)


There is a measureable confirmed significant "energy" that emanates from the top of the Giza Pyramid
- and Dr Osma whatsit
- has conirmed the same - at his Bosnian pyramid

In addition I think it was Reich
(Although its from memory so - could have been Royal Rife - the latter having truly fantastic suppressed frequency medical cure-all technology)
- who had a cabinet (based on the orgone capicitor) that I recollect had....shall we say.....appreciable medical benefits :o)

If your "receptive group" ever build one

- book me in for a weekly please.

Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 14:54 - 555 of 1034

Snurkle - Seems unavailable on E-Bay...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4kg-Orgone-Energy-Accumulator-Chembuster-Cloudbuster-/260897369077?

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snurkle1 - 01 Aug 2013 15:06 - 556 of 1034

I should have known, you're fully up to speed on that one Saturn :-)

Once I have caught up a bit with the boys, I will let you know what the score is as right now I'm only just starting to believe they weren't playing a joke on me when I got back from holiday. Boxes of resin, chrystals, metal, copper etc shavings appeared this morning in the office by delivery, so that was the moment when I had to believe what they were up to.

No doubt this story has a next episode

Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 15:18 - 557 of 1034

Snurkle - No!...Its the first I have heard of it from you.

Have you ever tried to get a response from anyone after telling them of chemtrails? I remember years ago folks telling me the yellow dust on their cars was sand-dust from the sahara. ;-o

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Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 15:23 - 558 of 1034

$Silver busted through the green average only to be repelled at the blue one...

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But it remains within the bounds of the 'Triangle' so lets see.

Meanwhile GDX is rangebound after being repelled at the top resistance line...

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Saturn6 - 01 Aug 2013 15:45 - 559 of 1034

Eerie or just plain coincidence,ssss?...

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robertalexander - 01 Aug 2013 17:44 - 560 of 1034

all,

thanks for all of your ideas/pointers etc. i have taken the plunge today and bought into physical silver [PHSP] at 1262p. it was a little more than i wanted to pay but i was flying at the time the market opened, but i am in for the ride and here's to hoping it is upwards mostly.

Alex

robertalexander - 01 Aug 2013 17:45 - 561 of 1034

all,

thanks for all of your ideas/pointers etc. i have taken the plunge today and bought into physical silver [PHSP] at 1262p. it was a little more than i wanted to pay but i was flying at the time the market opened, but i am in for the ride and here's to hoping it is upwards mostly.

Alex
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