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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 03 Jan 2015 18:09 - 54208 of 81564

The wording implies tech stuff, how would a nhs consortium be able to compete?

Haystack - 03 Jan 2015 18:14 - 54209 of 81564

This is old news from 8 December. The lefty blogs have just started to moan about it.

The NHS bid involved staff trained by the company who won the bid and also currently run the service. The company have run the service since November 2013 and will continue to use the NHS staff. It is clear that the bid winners have far more expertise than the NHS bidders. It looks like a lot of fuss about nothing.

MaxK - 03 Jan 2015 18:40 - 54210 of 81564

So why the secrecy?

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Fred1new - 03 Jan 2015 19:07 - 54212 of 81564

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I wonder to whom those hands belong to?

Haystack - 03 Jan 2015 19:21 - 54215 of 81564

I don't think there is any secrecy. It is a fiction dreamed up by activists.

A trust spokesman said: “The procurement process is still active and until completed we are unable to provide any information.”

And an Alliance spokesman added: “Until any standstill period is over we will be unable to provide any further information.”

goldfinger - 03 Jan 2015 20:43 - 54216 of 81564

Of course there is secrecy. Stop talking rot Hays.

Its a cover up by the sleazy Tories once again.

goldfinger - 03 Jan 2015 20:45 - 54217 of 81564

Ask yourself why do they have 3 times more money to fight the election with?????

Because they are selling OUR services off to THERE CHUMS and getting preferential treatment. (back handers to you and me)

doodlebug4 - 03 Jan 2015 20:53 - 54218 of 81564

They have 3 times more money because the people with brains in this country realise that the Labour party are not worth investing in. Simples.

doodlebug4 - 03 Jan 2015 21:02 - 54219 of 81564

By Telegraph View
6:35AM GMT 06 Jan 2015
The Tories have promised to tackle the astonishing payouts awarded to some public sector workers - and it's about time, too.

The public services need to attract talent, and may well have to provide competitive salaries and benefits as a result. But when people are being paid out of the taxpayers’ pocket, they should not expect to live like King Midas.

Yet when it comes to redundancy payments, some public servants have been doing exactly that. The largest sums involved are astonishing. Mark Byford, the BBC’s former deputy director-general, got £949,000 when he left; Caroline Thomson, the corporation’s former chief operating officer, got £670,000. In the NHS, Karen Straughair, the former chief executive of the South of Tyne and Wear Trust, got £605,000 when it was wound up; Jayne Brown, the former chief executive of the North Yorkshire and York one, got £414,000.

The Conservatives have let it be known that if they form a government after the May election, they will cap such payouts at £95,000. The party calculates that had such a policy been in place in 2011/12, more than £125 million would have been saved. Not only is this a fiscally sound idea, but it might also help restore some of the public’s faith in institutions that all too often seem to have a cavalier attitude towards spending. In today’s climate of austerity, people rightly expect value for money.

Just before the last election, David Cameron tried to strike a bargain with the public sector. He said that he would reduce bureaucracy and give its staff greater autonomy if, in exchange, they would give their “help in solving Labour’s debt crisis by keeping the cost of public sector pay only as high as the country can responsibly afford”. This is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask and ought to be universally welcomed. Good government in the 21st century must be competent, compassionate – and prudent.

Stan - 03 Jan 2015 21:28 - 54220 of 81564

"Because they are selling OUR services off to THERE CHUMS and getting preferential treatment. (back handers to you and me)"... Oh no not again surely, old habits and all that -):

Fred1new - 03 Jan 2015 21:37 - 54221 of 81564

How many "administrators" of the NHS under the given have had "compensation packages" of over £100000 and rehired by this government.

Just rehiring their condoms, sorry mates.

I hope the gravy trains come to the stops in March.

And I hope there is an investigation into contracts handed out by the present No 10 comedy act.

4 years of "you fill my hands and I will fill yours".

Good old tory politics.



Haystack - 03 Jan 2015 21:44 - 54222 of 81564

gf
What you mean by this, is that you do not know the reasons that the company won the contract and that the reasons have not been released on a timetable to suit you.

"Of course there is secrecy. Stop talking rot Hays.

Its a cover up by the sleazy Tories once again."

Stan - 03 Jan 2015 21:58 - 54223 of 81564

It doesn't matter what excuses you give H/S, just except that you support a corrupt outfit.

Haystack - 03 Jan 2015 22:24 - 54224 of 81564

And you just choose to believe the worst without evidence. It is one of the afflictions of a closed mind.

Stan - 03 Jan 2015 22:32 - 54225 of 81564

A closed mind? Well you've had plenty of time to develop one of those.

goldfinger - 04 Jan 2015 01:27 - 54226 of 81564

And your accused just as much as I Hays in fact Labour and the NHS want to know why they havent won the contract but the government arent releasing the reason, so in my books thats your lot who are being secretive, lets face it they rule or are supposed to rule the country.

Haystack - 04 Jan 2015 03:10 - 54227 of 81564

The contract has only recently been awarded and not yet signed. When that has happened I am sure we will find out why it was awarded to the company.
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