Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

#54279 is spot on gf, why cant people see it?

There is a trend across Europe for parties like UKIP to grow at present. I think it is a reaction to difficult economic times. UKIP is similar to other very right wing parties in Europe, although they are having a go at pretending to be a bit left wing. Just remember how Hitler and his party gained popularity. It may be worth remembering that Farage got in trouble when at school by marching through parts of South London with friends singing Nazi songs.

In the late 1970s and early eighties the Ukip leader was a pupil at Dulwich College in south London, one of Britain's most prestigious schools. Channel 4 News has uncovered strong evidence that teachers at Dulwich thought Nigel Farage was "racist", and "fascist" or "neo-fascist".

We have a long letter (below) written in June 1981 by a young English teacher, Chloe Deakin, begging the master of the college (head teacher), David Emms, to reconsider his decision to appoint Farage as a prefect. Deakin did not know Farage personally but her letter includes an account of what was said by staff at their annual meeting, held a few days earlier, to discuss new prefects.

The letter says that when one teacher said Farage was "a fascist, but that was no reason why he would not make a good prefect," there was "considerable reaction" from colleagues.

The letter continues: "Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson. This master stated his view that this behaviour was precisely why the boy should not be made a prefect. Yet another colleague described how, at a Combined Cadet Force (CCF) camp organised by the college, Farage and others had marched through a quiet Sussex village very late at night shouting Hitler-youth songs."

The trend across €urope is people waking up to the fact that €urope isn't working.

Look at the freaking unemployment stats!

You're getting desperate Haystack.

How many labour party young uns could be said to have sung "when the red revolution comes"?


No doubt the Bullingdon boys had their own version.

Margaret Thatcher predicted that a single currency for Europe would be an utter disaster more than 20 years ago.

Luckily UKIP will get so few seats, it won't matter very much.

And how many votes will they nick off the main party's?

Care to wager/predict on who will retain/gain what?

The votes they get may well alter the balance of the parties. The more successful they are, the more likely Labour will benefit and the less successful the more Conservatives will benefit. But in neither case will it get UKIP seats and any actual power. All they can be is a disruptive influence.

I think that as the election approaches, people will see the pointlessness of voting for UKIP. Don't forget that UKIP have to win their two seats again at the GE.

Looks like Haystacks main man is bottling it....



Ukip coalition

Prime minister declines to answer whether he would align with Ukip as Nigel Farage also refuses to rule out deal


Rowena Mason, political correspondent


The Guardian, Sunday 4 January 2015 11.41 GMT



David Cameron once called Ukip a bunch of 'fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists'. Photograph: Richard Kaminski/Rex


David Cameron and Nigel Farage have refused to rule out a deal between the Conservatives and Ukip after the election.

The prime minister was twice asked whether he would ever align with Ukip on the BBC1’s Andrew Marr Show, but dodged the question, saying he would not comment on any potential combinations before the election.

Cameron also suggested a Tory-led government could try to hold an early referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union – a move that would satisfy the Eurosceptic right of the Conservatives and potentially smooth the path for a deal with Ukip.



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/04/david-cameron-ukip-coalition-nigel-farage

He was right about

'fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists'

Liberal Simon Hughes has said today that the Libs will go into a coalition with any party, but will attempt a deal first with the largest party.

Farage has said a key Ukip policy in health was getting rid of doctors with poor English from the NHS – even though they are already required to pass a language test.

Another one of his silly policies designed to appeal to the lowest intellects.

The tory road for 4 years going nowhere!



Captain Wavy Dave driving and undertaker George in control!

Nightmare at No 10 after a joint!

Mark Reckless ‏@MarkReckless 9 minutes ago

The reason David Cameron now claims EU Referendum possibly 2016, not end-2017, is surely that he has given up on any serious renegotiation

if that is so, then it makes it more likely that, rightly or wrongly, the british public (with or without the scots!) will vote for out .... except if labour is put in power, they won't have any say at all

however, is eu still at the forefront of the voting public's mind - that means those who actually get off their arses to vote?

probably not, though immigration and various aspects of the economy are and have a link

Somebody must be smoking the same substance as No 10 does.