Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

RF

How about you starting another thread for the like minded!

RF - don't be bullied off the site .... just do as i do and skate past 95/99% of it .... just occasionally you'll find something you want to comment upon

of course, if these tub-thumpers learnt the art of brevity and precis, their garbage (sorry, posts) wouldn't take up quite so many pages

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meanwhile dow thunders south
if no late(r) recovery, then ftse will be in for another torrid day

For someone who claims to "skate past 95/99% of it" you are always putting your six quid's worth in.

it's the inflation that does it :-)
in fact, you won't often find me responding to the usual garbage though i may add to it

If he get six quid, he is overpaid!

Bit over the top that RF, we all have bad days. As the thread header says you can post about any subject that you wish here.

Its up to the individual to find like minded people to discuss a certain topic.

A lot on here like politics so we debate it.

If an individual doesnt like a topic just skate around it like Cyners says.

Stay with us and post about your hobbies say, see if we have other interested posters.

Hays Hays Hays............

Labour lead at 3

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 5th January - Con 31%, Lab 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 8%;

No good having 3 times more money than us Hays if you spend it on crap eg, that new Tory Poster. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL where was it taken.......ohhh yes GERMANY.

Whats wrong with Germany?

After all, that's where Dave wants to go. (or so it would seem)

He is certainly pro Europe. It is not an unreasonable stance. The public are split pretty much 50/50 over it. Sometimes there is a majority in favour and sometimes the other way. You can pretty much bet that a referendum will produce a vote in favour of staying in.

Perhaps cynic should start the - "I just want to talk about myself thread" since " I " seems to be his favourite word.:-)

Ive got German Blood in me Max(fathers side), blonde hair blue eyes Aryan Race, Zig Hile Zig Hile.

Well have all the Tories rounded up in ghettos after the GE win for labour. ie, socialist worker.

Diane Abbott attacks 'unscrupulous' Jim Murphy over mansion tax plan

Labour in-fighting breaks out over Mr Murphy's plan to use a mansion tax on homes mainly in the South East of England to fund 1,000 more nurses in Scotland, with Ms Abbott accusing him of trying to "expropriate" money from Londoners




By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor

2:43PM GMT 06 Jan 2015

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Jim Murphy’s plan to employ 1,000 extra nurses in Scotland using the proceeds of a mansion tax in the south-east of England is “highly unscrupulous”, Diane Abbott has said as bitter Labour in-fighting over the controversial policy broke out.


Ms Abbott, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, said the Scottish Labour leader’s proposal meant he wanted to “expropriate money from Londoners to win an election in Scotland.”


After getting Mr Murphy’s name wrong, the Labour MP then undermined the party’s mansion tax plans by predicting that the super-rich would evade it and suggesting those in the firing line are middle-class families who bought their London homes 30 years ago.


Mr Murphy, the East Renfrewshire MP, hit back by arguing it is a UK-wide levy and he would decide how the proceeds that would come to Scotland under the Barnett formula would be spent.


He said Ms Abbott’s gaffe over his name meant he could not take her views “seriously” and pointed out that the tax revenue from North Sea oil in Scottish waters was similarly spent across the UK.




Their row on BBC Radio 4’s World at One programme came after Boris Johnson accused Labour of being “vindictive” to the South East by seeking to bribe Scottish voters with the nurse pledge. He accused Labour of seeking to “milk, mug, tax and squeeze London until the pips squeak”.

Labour’s mansion tax plan would apply to homes worth more than £2 million, around 95 per cent of which Mr Murphy said are in the south-east, and is predicted to raise £1.2 billion.

The Scottish Labour leader said Scotland alone could not raise the money to fund his promise as there are fewer than 1,000 properties to which it would apply and it would only generate £15 million north of the Border.





Ms Abbott, a veteran Left-winger who hopes to run for London mayor told World at One: “I’m very surprised John (sic) Murphy is making these boasts. I support the mansion tax in principle but there are to big problems.

“It’s effectively a tax on London – 80 per cent of it will come from London –and there are problems. The super-wealthy plutocrats, who will all think should pay the mansion tax, probably using their lawyers and accountants will evade it.

“But you could be a teacher in Hackney literally who bought a house at the beginning of the ‘80s for £50,000 and it’s worth £1 million and climbing. Jim Murphy can’t surely mean he is going to expropriate money from Londoners to win an election in Scotland.”

She said many people bought homes 30 years that were in areas that were unfashionable then but are now “very worried” about the levy, before adding: “Jim Murphy isn’t helping matters.”

Ms Abbott accused the Scottish Labour leader of “jumping the gun in a highly unscrupulous way” by making the announcement before the details of how a mansion tax would be implemented had been finalised.

But Mr Murphy said: “It’s hard to take this argument seriously, I mean she didn’t even remember my name at the start of it, and I don’t have to consult Diane Abbott about what I do in the Scottish Labour Party.

“What I’m doing is arguing for and supporting the British Labour Party policy. It’s a UK-wide tax – people in houses in Scotland worth over £2 million would pay it, Northern Ireland, Wales and England.”

He said he does not have to consult Ms Abbott or Ed Miliband over how to spend the proceeds because “I’m in charge” of devolved areas such as the NHS.

“Diane Abbott should maybe concentrate on supporting the Labour Party’s policy rather forgetting my name or attacking my approach to what I do in Scotland,” he added.

Speaking from Aberdeen, Mr Murphy pointed out North Sea oil and gas has similarly generated tax revenues for the whole of the UK thanks to the “pooling and sharing of resources”.

He also rejected SNP criticisms of the plan, saying the Nationalists “can’t handle” the plan as they campaign only in Scotland whereas the mansion tax would raise money that would be shared across the UK.

If Labour wins the general election, Mr Miliband has promised to raise £2.5 billion for an NHS Time to Care Fund, which would be used to fund more health care staff in England. The money would be raised through the mansion tax, a tax on tobacco firms and a crack down on corporate tax avoidance.

But under the Barnett formula, which allocates money to Holyrood based on spending on devolved areas south of the Border, Scotland would be entitled to the £250 million, around £30 million of which Mr Murphy has said he would spend on 1,000 more nurses.

His plan also faced criticism from Labour’s other candidates for mayor, with Dame Tessa Jowell warning against treating London as a “cash cow” and David Lammy telling the Evening Standard it showed the mansion tax would mean money being “siphoned off” from the capital.

Mr Johnson added to the wave of condemnation from Tories about the plan. He told his monthly LBC Radio Show that Labour has “decided to punish the south-east, or be fiscally vindictive to the south-east of England, in order to bribe the people of Scotland.”

He added: “It is no way to run a country. I don’t think it is right that the Labour Party should be saying one thing to Scotland and a different thing to London.”

Grant Shapps, the Tory chairman, said: “Jim Murphy’s comments show once again that Ed Miliband simply does not command the respect of his party. They don’t listen to him or consult him because he is a weak leader. If Miliband can’t prevent chaos from breaking out in his own party then he clearly isn’t fit to run the country.”

A Labour spokesman said: "The overwhelming majority of funding raised from the mansion tax will be spent in England, but as with any UK-wide tax, Scotland will receive a share of the proceeds under the Barnett formula, which has cross-party support.

"It is up to the Scottish Government how to spend this revenue."

I think it's time scootland paid for it's own give-aways, and to hell with Barnet.

sticky - 54415 - i think you've strange parentage through Zig-gy Stardust and Hile-da Ogden

Anybody end up in Casualty last night.

It is nothing to do with politics!

Cyners something for you............

http://www.sharecast.com/news/london-first-time-buyers-have-to-pay-nine-times-their-annual-income/22360539.html

the headline tells it all, and i'm quite sure that is so in central london
even a simple one bedroom flat in notting hill will easily go for ~£450k

however, there are still some good value areas outside london (kent and essex for example) where the rail/road links are excellent, good schools in the area and houses at £150-250k

Was pointing at the multiple. Im sure you could only get 2.5 times you and your wifes salaries when I first entered the market. Maybe 3 at a stretch with some providers.

re-arranging the deckchairs...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11329124/Vince-Cable-demoted-as-Nick-Clegg-reshapes-top-team-for-the-general-election.html