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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

mentor - 26 Sep 2016 10:53 - 5465 of 12628

Will this time be true and a well done job? ...........

Hollande confirms Calais migrant camp shutdown, urges UK help

CALAIS, France, Sept 26 (Reuters) - President Francois Hollande said on Monday that France will completely shut down "the Jungle" migrant camp in Calais and called on London to help deal with the plight of thousands of people whose dream is ultimately to get to Britain.

"The situation is unacceptable and everyone here knows it," Hollande said on a visit to the northern port city where as many as 10,000 migrants from war-torn countries such as Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan live in squalour.
"We must dismantle the camp completely and definitively," he said.

France plans to relocate the migrants in small groups around the country but right-wing opponents of the Socialist leader are raising the heat ahead of the election in April, accusing him of mismanaging a problem that is ultimately a British one.

The migrants want to enter Britain, but the government in London argues that migrants seeking asylum need to do so under European Union law in the country where they enter.

Immigration was one of the main drivers of Britain's vote this year to leave the EU. It is also likely to be major factor in France's presidential election.

If France stopped trying to prevent migrants from entering Britain, Britain would ultimately find tself obliged to deal with the matter when asylum-seekers land on its shores a short distance by ferry or subsea train from France's Calais coast.

Hollande bluntly reminded Britain of that, saying that he expected London to fully honour agreements on managing a flow of migrants.

"I also want to restate my determination that the British authorities play their part in the humanitarian effort that France is undertaking and that they continue to do that in the future," Hollande said.

London and Paris have struck agreements on issues such as the recently begun construction of a giant wall on the approach road to Calais port in an attempt to try to stop migrants who attempt daily to board cargo trucks bound for Britain.

VICTIM - 26 Sep 2016 10:57 - 5466 of 12628

Do they even try to stop them entering France , probably not allowed to though . Trouble is if we take loads it will get out and even more will come from these countries , it just perpetuates the problem .

grannyboy - 26 Sep 2016 12:54 - 5467 of 12628

The French said exactly the same about the Sangette camp when the Labour
government capitulated and let thousands into this country, just to solve the
problem you understand.

And now we're finding out that this problem NEVER went away, is still there
and the French still want us to fall for that disgusting ploy once again..

And there is also the deceiving Sarkozy, who is spouting about closing the
'jungle' down and other such B.S that he failed to carry out when in power,
He's now giving out this rubbish and lies to negate the Front National in his
efforts at getting back into power ..

required field - 27 Sep 2016 21:12 - 5468 of 12628

The French might ...and I say might mean good intentions when they close the camp but where are these people going to go ?....the camp closes ..fine...now what ; they start another one further along the beach perhaps ?...or do they let them bound a train to England without us knowing...aha ! : you have to suspect everything nowadays !....it sounds like nonsense politics to me...come to think : a lot of french overseas policies remind me : of the effects of having an ostrich with a loud-hailer...really....

grannyboy - 27 Sep 2016 23:28 - 5469 of 12628

The French want those from the 'jungle' to go to camps around Paris and other
inland camps, and they've also said the UK should take some.

Just like when they closed down the Sangette camp and the French 'persuaded'
the open door mass immigration Labour party to fall for the French whines and
allowed thousands to flood into the UK.

required field - 27 Sep 2016 23:53 - 5470 of 12628

This is the problem with borders being abolished in the EU....it's crazy.....all you need is one country to allow millions of immigrants...and I mean illegal immigrants in...and in this case it seems our German cousins Merkel and such have allowed this....the French are in the situation where they cannot forbid the migrants from crossing the rhine and the whole of Europe has to deal with the problem......go back 100 years or so and it would have started a war....this is nuts EU policy !....from what I gather the Hungarians are furious and even regret joining the EU .... there is something you never hear from our corrupt airwaves is : these migrants : they must have some sort of final destination in the UK musn't they ?....some sort of dodgy address in the Midlands...Greater London...Manchester.....so some people are harbouring these people when they get here.....what a great cover-up isn't it ?.....it might be time to get tough non...?...

MaxK - 28 Sep 2016 09:12 - 5471 of 12628

Roomer on the wireless that Comrade Corby is going to give a speech this afternoon on immigration, basically saying come one, come all.


I suspect Sister Theresa will be in raptures.

Claret Dragon - 28 Sep 2016 10:15 - 5472 of 12628

Have they anyone in that cesspit of a party that is somewhere between Blair and Corbyn with any credibility?

Dil - 28 Sep 2016 10:18 - 5473 of 12628

Nice one Jeremy , another 100,000+ votes for UKIP.

The guy is fecking clueless.

jimmy b - 28 Sep 2016 11:57 - 5474 of 12628

He must be loving it .
Good old Nigel is hanging around to make sure we get Brexit .

ExecLine - 28 Sep 2016 12:02 - 5475 of 12628

Yes. We're with you, Nigel. Though I hope we don't have to give you a call.

VICTIM - 28 Sep 2016 12:04 - 5476 of 12628

Enter stage left one Freda .

VICTIM - 28 Sep 2016 12:06 - 5477 of 12628

Is that a new poster jimmy , I'll have that next to the other above the bed . Sleep tight .

grannyboy - 28 Sep 2016 12:18 - 5478 of 12628

Lets hope that when the GE comes round, that only the 600,000 idiots who
are members of that now extinct party of the BRITISH indigenous workers
that it was started up to represent, are the ones that vote and the voters of
Labour of the past vote for a party that WANTS TO LIMIT IMMIGRATION TO
THE SKILLS THAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS, AND INTENDS TO CONTROL THE UK'S BORDERS...

jimmy b - 28 Sep 2016 12:31 - 5479 of 12628

Yes VIC lovely isn't it .

cynic - 28 Sep 2016 12:36 - 5480 of 12628

TM may have wanted to remain in eu, but at least she has listened to what people voted for and is acting accordingly .... quite what finally emerges in 12 months or so is anyone's guess

JC has heard but clearly hasn't listen and wants to retain at least something close to open-door

jimmy b - 28 Sep 2016 12:43 - 5481 of 12628

I don't think TM did want to remain if the truth be known .

MaxK - 28 Sep 2016 15:08 - 5482 of 12628

The thoughts of Chairman Jeremy are on full view on the tele.

The audience is lapping it up....



VICTIM - 28 Sep 2016 15:25 - 5483 of 12628

They were doing that when he was announced as leader Max .

MaxK - 28 Sep 2016 15:48 - 5484 of 12628

A true man of the people Vic.
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