Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

its funny our cowards become brave with a gun they are just cowards and would never fight without one ,

shortie we must arm our police and if some one as a gun shoot on site

You are right Shortie, this country would then become exactly the same as America.

It is surprising how often the bigger the guns a country has, is how self-righteousness the members of that country gets!

"There's a breathless hush in the Close to-night—
Ten to make and the match to win—
A bumping pitch and a blinding light,
An hour to play and the last man in."

Ain't it quiet!

Conservatives and Labour tied

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 8th January -

Con 33%, Lab 33%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%;

UKIP slowly heading down.

Anjem Choudary on the Charlie Hebdo attacks:

'Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression'





In the aftermath of yesterday's terrorist attack, the radical cleric wrote an open letter saying that Muslims don't believe in free speech



Helen Nianias

Thursday 08 January 2015



After yesterday's Paris shooting, in which four journalists on satirical publication Charlie Hebdo were killed, Muslim activist Anjem Choudary has written an open letter entitled 'People Know The Consequences'.



In the letter, which was published by USA Today, Choudary says: "Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires."



More:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/anjem-choudary-on-the-charlie-hebdo-attacks-muslims-do-not-believe-in-the-concept-of-freedom-of-expression-9965400.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Tanker we already have a corrupt police force, I wouldn't go arming them also. If the police carry guns then so would more criminals and so would more normally law abiding people. As a result more shootings would occur... We'd achieve nothing by doing this

As Vince Cable sensibly pointed out last night on QT, we don't have 'Free Speech' in the UK either.

eg. You just cannot go into a cinema or theatre and shout 'Fire!'. It is against the law.

What we do have in this country, is 'Free Speech within the bounds of the law.' This is somewhat different and much more acceptable.

Strange how the Koran and Bible's "myths and fables" can be interpreted according to the individual's "perceived needs".

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Is the media's coverage of the various sieges and actions in France stimulating, propagation, or "enhancing" the "extremists" and encourage "imitators" to perpetrate similar actions?

I suppose its the same freedom of speech that makes me find Anjem Choudary offensive that the Kouachi brothers found in Charlie Hebdo... What this prise nutter doesn't say though is that what a majority might take offence to only a small minority will murder over.

"Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression" he said, this is clearly an attempt to create a divide, this man doesn't speak for all Muslims, he doesn't speak for most of them, he speaks only for a few idolised Muslims and in all honesty I'm surprised The Independant printed this storey knowing that they would be fanning the flames and adding to the divide...

Shortie,

Not sure. "idolised" = ideologised.

he should be dealt with today

nor is there such a word let alone publication called The Independant!

I have just published it!

So there!

OK so I need to check me spelling and that... point still made though! What I may lack in words I make up for with numbers..

Shortie,

I am dyslexic and rely on my spelling checker routinely. Almost as far as writing my own name.

The word processor liberated me.

But I wish they wouldn't question S and want to turn it to Z.

Bloody Americans get everywhere!

paris now women and children taken hostage its time the west redressed the muslim community .
the muslim community must act to bring their terrorists to police or they are apart of the scum
to now say its not the muslim religion is lies it is islam that is to blame and must be sorted once and for all the world is at war weather the public believe or not
action must now take place big time give me my gun and orders to fight
you can not resolve this by words it means nothing to their religion

So the French are now dealing with multiple situations in Paris.

Key Points

Police surround building containing men suspected of Charlie Hebdo massacre
Hostage taken in siege in Dammartin-en-Goele, north-east of Paris
Earlier, police chased car believed to contain suspects
Brothers Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi wanted over killing of 12 people
Shooting and taking of hostages reported at kosher business in eastern Paris

The BBC have reported The attacker of the kosher shop in Paris was seen carrying two machine guns, reports in the French media say. So much for security being tight in Paris if someone can walk around carrying two machines guns!!

Mean while.

Manuel's non-political football.

Lansley reorganisation seems to have improved the NHS under Hunt and Cameron's administration.

No wonder Cameron is ducking a TV debate. What a creep.

A&E waits in England 'getting worse'

By Nick Triggle
Health correspondent, BBC News

Patient on stretcher

Private firm pulls out of hospital
Six reasons A&Es are struggling

Hospital 'major incidents' persist

Waiting times in A&E units in England have got even worse in the New Year, figures show.

The last three months of 2014 saw performance drop to its lowest level for a decade with just 92.6% of patients seen in four hours.

The data for the week up to Sunday saw 86.7% of patients seen in four hours. The target is 95%.

Elsewhere in the UK the four-hour waiting time target is being missed.

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It comes as a number of hospitals have declared "major incidents" in recent weeks.

This signifies they are facing exceptional pressures and triggers extra staff being called in and other steps, including cancelling non-emergency care, such as routine operations.

The latest waiting time figure is the worst since weekly recording began in 2010. The last four weeks have all been the four worst ever recorded.

Private pull-out

The overall figure includes walk-in centres and minor injury units, once they are stripped out the performance of major A&E units has dipped below 80%.

Data has also been published showing other pressures inside hospitals.