Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Lets hope that when the GE comes round, that only the 600,000 idiots who
are members of that now extinct party of the BRITISH indigenous workers
that it was started up to represent, are the ones that vote and the voters of
Labour of the past vote for a party that WANTS TO LIMIT IMMIGRATION TO
THE SKILLS THAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS, AND INTENDS TO CONTROL THE UK'S BORDERS...

Yes VIC lovely isn't it .

TM may have wanted to remain in eu, but at least she has listened to what people voted for and is acting accordingly .... quite what finally emerges in 12 months or so is anyone's guess

JC has heard but clearly hasn't listen and wants to retain at least something close to open-door

I don't think TM did want to remain if the truth be known .

The thoughts of Chairman Jeremy are on full view on the tele.

The audience is lapping it up....

They were doing that when he was announced as leader Max .

A true man of the people Vic.

Corbyn: Immediate thoughts....

A very, very inspirational speech. He did himself absolutely proud and I smiled when he reminded everyone how, compared with TM, he has a phenomenal electoral mandate, whereas she does not.

Undoubtedly, we will most definitely see 3 new Labour city mayors elected into Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool.

Very brave to say Labour would stop arms sales to Saudi Arabia. I do agree with it on the one hand, but what about SA just going on and buying these things from elsewhere? We would just be the financial losers and all the things wrong that SA does with them would stay the same for sure.

I do agree about stopping/preventing so much outsourcing and encouraging local councils to take things back into their own hands.

I like the ideas about education, housebuilding and taking certain things back into public ownership.

My dog is pestering! More later.

The new slogan from the pro-eu remainer's is soft brexit....

I SAY FECK SOFT BREXIT, ITS GOT TO BE 'HARD' BREXIT...

NO IF'S, NO BUT'S!!!!!!!

AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOO STITCH UP.......

Yes the marxist along with the socialist workers party were very impressed
and shown it with manic applause, similar to a birthday gathering for Kim Jung Un.


"I smiled when he reminded everyone how, compared with TM, he has
a phenomenal electoral mandate"


He might have amongst the half a million Labour members, but he CERTAINLY
WILL NOT have a mandate from the majority of sensible capitalist middle classes.

Can't hear you.

EL - lots of things may sound good, but how heavy a tax bill are you prepared to bear to pay for them? .... do you fancy going back the good old days of 98% or even 55/60%

Well, the have nots will see nothing wrong with 50-60% tax....soak the rich, and give it to us will be the cry.

It worked before, our Denis proved that.


Forward to the past comrades!

and as history has shown, it's a very short term view ..... middle management gets hit and actually produces very little in real terms and stifles spending ..... great logic for imposing it

Whats logic got to do with it?

Corby is playing to the new party faithfull, some 7-800 thousand of them, and they love it.

Peeps have made the mistake of thinking Corby is old old labour, when in fact, he is nu nu labour, a logic free zone.

Is Deutsche Bank the next Lehman Brothers? The denials certainly don't help suggest it's not

By
James Quinn
Group Business Editor James Quinn



28 September 2016 • 8:00pm



“Whether or not Deutsche can survive without a bail-out by the German government is the only topic most other European bankers want to discuss”


Full story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/28/is-deutsche-bank-the-next-lehman-brothers-the-denials-certainly/


Not exactly cutting edge stuff, but well worth a read imo.

on that basis it's surprising to see DAX roaring ahead

Deutsche is in trouble by the sounds of it ,been in the papers this week . Be careful with the DAX i put a short on FTSE this morning going too far too fast maybe the same with the DAX .

certainly there's money to be made on DAX - in both directions

Index Trading with the MT4 Somnus EA
is a good and knowledgeable thread, but the system and application may be beyond my tiny brain