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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 10 Jan 2015 18:52 - 54790 of 81564

Q. What is wrong with this?

Ed Miliband has pledged to raise the minimum wage to £8 by 2020

A. A report by an ex Labour cabinet minister, Alan Milburn, showed that with inflation the minimum wage would be £8.23 by 2020. Miliband's figure implies a lower rate of growth than 1999 to 2014. So Miliband's minimum wage would end up being a drop in the minimum wage!

goldfinger - 10 Jan 2015 19:03 - 54791 of 81564

Most Unions get a bigger turn out than the Tories did for the last GE and most Unions get a bigger % vote for strike action than CHUBBY DAVE did not to win the last GE.

Talk about double standards.

AND its only since women have started working in such big numbers that this apathy as come into Union Voting.

A lot of women just working to subsidise there husbands (white van man) wage each month.

In fact there husbands tell them not to strike.

Pathetic situation.

goldfinger - 10 Jan 2015 19:07 - 54792 of 81564

LABOUR IN THE LEAD AND CHUBBY DAVE DAREN'T GO ON STAGE (chicken)

In the first week back there have been seven polls. The regular weekly Ashcroft poll hasn’t fired up yet, and none of the phone pollsters did fieldwork over the first weekend of the year, but the daily YouGov and twice-weekly Populus polls are off:

Opinium/Observer (2/1/15) – CON 32%, LAB 33%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 17%, GRN 4%
Populus (4/1/15) – CON 34%, LAB 35%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%
YouGov/Sun (5/1/15) – CON 31%, LAB 34%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 8%
YouGov/Sun (6/1/15) – CON 33%, LAB 33%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 13%, GRN 8%
YouGov/Sun (7/1/15) – CON 32%, LAB 33%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 15%, GRN 7%
YouGov/Sun (8/1/15) – CON 33%, LAB 33%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%
Populus (8/1/15) – CON 33%, LAB 34%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%

goldfinger - 10 Jan 2015 19:10 - 54793 of 81564

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Fred1new - 10 Jan 2015 19:26 - 54794 of 81564

I think it would be sensible to only have UK governments, which represent 50+ percent of the voters wishes and registered, "possibly", or one based on MPs elected by proportional representation.

Also, that the corruption funds (sorry party donations) are on a proportional amount according to party membership not rich daddies.

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Haystack - 10 Jan 2015 19:28 - 54795 of 81564

gf
You missed this part from the above poll details

"All the polls so far are showing a tight race, with the Labour party averaging a very small lead – the current UKPollingReport average has CON 33%, LAB 34%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%."

and this

"Election Forecast – Hung Parliament, CON 284, LAB 281, LD 26, SNP 34, UKIP 3
Elections Etc – Hung Parliament, CON 294, LAB 297, LD 29, OTH 30
May 2015 – Hung Parliament, CON 273, LAB 281, LD 24, SNP 46, UKIP 3"

As you can see the figures are very close. It is significant that UKIP is predicted to have just 3 MPs. That is not a balance of power. The Libs look like getting plenty of seats, which is what I expect

Fred1new - 10 Jan 2015 20:31 - 54796 of 81564

Haze,

You seem to be becoming more of an inconsistent wandering Willy.

A few weeks ago you were writing the election polls meant little and of no importance.

Are you becoming as inconsistent and dodgy as your lord and master Wavy Dave.



MaxK - 10 Jan 2015 20:52 - 54797 of 81564

All of those polls you highlighted Haystack = end of dave...fooked!


And, of course, none of them take into account the shifting seat scenario caused by tactical voting vis-à-vis UKIP.


Don't you understand, lots of people, like me, wont vote for the same old bullshit as offered by the big three...it's gone, had enough, no more!

Stan - 10 Jan 2015 20:54 - 54798 of 81564

A straight majority is all that is required just like Local and General Elections for Councillors or MP's.

The only reason we get Right wing outfits like the "Con" and Blue Labour Governments constantly high jacking the voting system is because they want to help their unscrupulous employer mates force down wages and conditions.

MaxK - 10 Jan 2015 21:08 - 54799 of 81564

Blue labour Stan?

Fred1new - 10 Jan 2015 21:08 - 54800 of 81564

Max,

You may need to stockpile some nappies for after the next election.

MaxK - 10 Jan 2015 21:10 - 54801 of 81564

I'll need to stockpile full stop if your lot get in Fred!

doodlebug4 - 10 Jan 2015 21:15 - 54802 of 81564

Max, what are UKIP's policies on the NHS, education, HS2, possible welfare reforms, environment - etc.?

MaxK - 10 Jan 2015 21:20 - 54803 of 81564

Same as the other party's db, "make it up as you go along."

doodlebug4 - 10 Jan 2015 21:36 - 54804 of 81564

So why vote UKIP then if you think they are no different? I thought you wanted a change from the usual lot?

Haystack - 10 Jan 2015 21:50 - 54805 of 81564

And why vote for UKIP when they won't be able to do anything. You may as well vote for the Monster Raving Loony party.

MaxK - 10 Jan 2015 22:10 - 54806 of 81564

db, what is the point of voting the same way as before if you want change?

btw, I did not say they were the same, read it again.


We already have the eq of the monster party in power Haystack;

More people "in work" than ever is the headline...but a higher benefits bill is the result.


Economic lunacy!

See what I mean Haystack?

doodlebug4 - 10 Jan 2015 22:29 - 54807 of 81564

Max, I can't see how voting UKIP is going to change our political system. At best UKIP will win approx 3 or 4 seats at the GE. What difference is that going to make? If you feel like making a personal political statement by voting UKIP of course that is your choice, just the same as anyone who votes for a minority party - it is not going to change the political landscape of this country in the foreseeable future.

Haystack - 10 Jan 2015 22:37 - 54808 of 81564

That balance will change as the economy improves. As employment increases, there will be competition for staff. That will result in higher pay. The use of zero hours contacts will decrease. It is the result of the supply side policies of the last few years. It is classic economics. As the demand and supply for staff balances out, there will be some inflation due to increased spending of higher pay causing prices to rise. As that happens, interest rates will increase slowly back to normal levels.

Stan - 11 Jan 2015 00:22 - 54809 of 81564

Back to normal? i.e. A low wage rip off Britain built on debt... don't make us laugh.
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