Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I think it would be sensible to only have UK governments, which represent 50+ percent of the voters wishes and registered, "possibly", or one based on MPs elected by proportional representation.

Also, that the corruption funds (sorry party donations) are on a proportional amount according to party membership not rich daddies.

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You missed this part from the above poll details

"All the polls so far are showing a tight race, with the Labour party averaging a very small lead – the current UKPollingReport average has CON 33%, LAB 34%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%."

and this

"Election Forecast – Hung Parliament, CON 284, LAB 281, LD 26, SNP 34, UKIP 3
Elections Etc – Hung Parliament, CON 294, LAB 297, LD 29, OTH 30
May 2015 – Hung Parliament, CON 273, LAB 281, LD 24, SNP 46, UKIP 3"

As you can see the figures are very close. It is significant that UKIP is predicted to have just 3 MPs. That is not a balance of power. The Libs look like getting plenty of seats, which is what I expect

Haze,

You seem to be becoming more of an inconsistent wandering Willy.

A few weeks ago you were writing the election polls meant little and of no importance.

Are you becoming as inconsistent and dodgy as your lord and master Wavy Dave.

All of those polls you highlighted Haystack = end of dave...fooked!


And, of course, none of them take into account the shifting seat scenario caused by tactical voting vis-à-vis UKIP.


Don't you understand, lots of people, like me, wont vote for the same old bullshit as offered by the big three...it's gone, had enough, no more!

A straight majority is all that is required just like Local and General Elections for Councillors or MP's.

The only reason we get Right wing outfits like the "Con" and Blue Labour Governments constantly high jacking the voting system is because they want to help their unscrupulous employer mates force down wages and conditions.

Blue labour Stan?

Max,

You may need to stockpile some nappies for after the next election.

I'll need to stockpile full stop if your lot get in Fred!

Max, what are UKIP's policies on the NHS, education, HS2, possible welfare reforms, environment - etc.?

Same as the other party's db, "make it up as you go along."

So why vote UKIP then if you think they are no different? I thought you wanted a change from the usual lot?

And why vote for UKIP when they won't be able to do anything. You may as well vote for the Monster Raving Loony party.

db, what is the point of voting the same way as before if you want change?

btw, I did not say they were the same, read it again.


We already have the eq of the monster party in power Haystack;

More people "in work" than ever is the headline...but a higher benefits bill is the result.


Economic lunacy!

See what I mean Haystack?

Max, I can't see how voting UKIP is going to change our political system. At best UKIP will win approx 3 or 4 seats at the GE. What difference is that going to make? If you feel like making a personal political statement by voting UKIP of course that is your choice, just the same as anyone who votes for a minority party - it is not going to change the political landscape of this country in the foreseeable future.

That balance will change as the economy improves. As employment increases, there will be competition for staff. That will result in higher pay. The use of zero hours contacts will decrease. It is the result of the supply side policies of the last few years. It is classic economics. As the demand and supply for staff balances out, there will be some inflation due to increased spending of higher pay causing prices to rise. As that happens, interest rates will increase slowly back to normal levels.

Back to normal? i.e. A low wage rip off Britain built on debt... don't make us laugh.

Norman Tebbit says David Cameron will lose support if he ducks TV debates

Voters will think prime minister is ‘frit’ – running scared – warns former Tory chairman, if he dodges confrontation




Toby Helm and Andrew Rawnsley


The Observer, Saturday 10 January 2015 20.39 GMT

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/10/norman-tebbit-david-cameron-warning-tv-debates




David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown during the BBC's last live leaders' debate before the 2010 general election. Photograph: Jeff Overs / BBC/PA


Voters will conclude that David Cameron is “frit” if he refuses to take part in live television debates with the other party leaders before the general election, Norman Tebbit, the Tory party’s former chairman, has told the Observer.

The veteran peer, who steered the Tories to their third consecutive election victory in 1987, said he understood Cameron’s concern that Ed Miliband and Nigel Farage might gain more than him from the occasions. But he said voters would not be impressed by a prime minister who denied them a chance to scrutinise them all on television before the election on 7 May.

“I don’t think it is going to improve his image. I think the public will take the view that he is frit. And anyway, the public enjoy these confrontations. It is obviously going to be the most awful election campaign that anyone can remember, so to rob it even of this little bit of show, I think, would not be particularly pleasing to the public.”

The word “frit” was used by Margaret Thatcher in the House of Commons in 1983, when she accused Labour’s then deputy leader, Denis Healey, of being “frit” – frightened – of a general election. It can also be revealed that key talks between the broadcasters and political parties about a possible series of TV debates – due to have been held on 8 January – were cancelled at the last minute after the Tories pulled out. No new date has been set.

The decision to cancel came on the same day as Ofcom, the broadcasting regulator, issued a draft ruling saying that the Green party did not have sufficient support to be regarded as a major player in the election campaign, whereas Ukip had a stronger case. The ruling, which makes it more difficult for the Greens to be included in TV debates, was seized on by Cameron, who said he did not think it would be fair to hold debates which included Ukip but not the Greens. “You can’t have one minor party without having another minor party and I think that’s only fair.”

The Greens were furious, while the Liberal Democrats and Labour accused Cameron of using the ruling as an excuse not to take part.

While Cameron has not ruled out holding one or more television debates, Whitehall sources say that in private he makes clear his determination to avoid them – even if he is then accused of running scared and being “chicken”.

Cameron came under criticism on Friday when it emerged that he had refused to take part in an online question and answer session aimed at young first-time voters, although the leaders of the other four main parties had already taken part. Downing Street told the organisation running the debates, Bite the Ballot, that the prime minister had not got time to do so before polling day.

Cameron’s strategists – including the head of the party’s election campaign, Lynton Crosby – are known to be advising him against debating with Miliband, Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg and Farage. They believe that Miliband, whose public standing is lower than Cameron’s, can only gain from appearing, and that being on stage alongside the prime minister would give Farage greater gravitas.

Former Tory deputy chairman Lord Ashcroft, who is a major party donor, is also understood to be strongly opposed to Cameron taking part in televised debates. Ashcroft was furious with Cameron agreeing to such debates in 2010 – a decision that he believed allowed Clegg to boost his vote and thus deprived the Tories of an overall majority.

Labour and the Lib Dems are suggesting the broadcasters should, if necessary, hold the events without Cameron.

Tebbit conceded that Cameron was in a difficult position, but said he would take a lot of flak if he resisted. “It would certainly provide the opportunity for the other parties to say, ‘What is wrong with him? Why doesn’t he want to do it?’ And for the more sophisticated audience, they will whisper quietly that the reason is that he bungled it in 2010.”

Does anyone else has Agrokultura AB (originally landkom shares).
A company has over 95% of shares and is going to delist (stop trading) in end February.

Can they do this? What about our shares?

Any idea please.

One thing these attacks will do is to increase and exasperate the separation and divide that exists and alienates muslims in Europe from the rest of the native populations, and religious communities.

Conservatives and Labour tied

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 9th January -

Con 32%, Lab 32%, LD 7%, UKIP 18%, GRN 6%;