Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

off to spain tomorrow have a good jan all

more importantly and less silly ......
there are laws in this country against the dissemination of racial hatred and similar
i am quite sure that this preacher must contravene those laws

secondly (fred) democracy and freedom of speech carry with them certain responsibilities and limitations
per above, i would be delighted to hear from some qualified lawyer as to whether these boundaries have been crossed - common sense says they have been - and if not, how come

as for deportation, it will of course depend on this chap's nationality history - eg is he a natural-born uk citizen, one who has acquired same by nationalisation, someone with dual passport or not a uk citizen at all

MrT ... i hope you're providing some employment for at least one or two of the very impoverished spanish youth

cynic you are posts are very good . and very good points so why have the police not arrested this scum

You could probably charge the preacher, but not for much. He isn't suggesting more violence but just supporting what has already happened. You might be able to get him on race relation laws but I think it might be tricky. Either way, he would be out on bail in hours. Bear in mind that he is already out on bail anyway for something else. There does seem to be a gap in the legislation.

cynic I always buy the locals a pint and only use their bars and restaurants as they cook it in the kitchen were I can see them do it top notch they even cook me a snack to take back to my apartment

As a rule of thumb, if you can not swear allegiance to the country and not speak our language then you are a visitor here. As such please don't be offended if you overstay your welcome and are asked to leave. Of course a visitor should be treated differently to a citizen of our country, its not a human a matter of human right but more like 'king of the castle'..

Far better to "know the devil you do know rather then not" I would have thought, keep an eye on such people and act as appropriate would seem obvious.

Gold been on the up lately I see, Dollar down know doubt.

if someone is out on bail, is it not similar to be someone being released on parole - ie they are out on license?

if someone is out on bail, is it not similar to be someone being released on parole - ie they are out on license?

That was my thought too. Out on bail and you pull a stroke, back in.

Maybe it doesent apply to muzzers?

People with form that actually carry out any threat they make not picked up? That doesn't happen here or in the US does it?, I wonder why... think about it.

France Terror: Police And Army Deployed

Nearly 5,000 officers will protect Jewish schools, and thousands of troops will guard other sensitive sites following the attacks.




France has deployed nearly 5,000 police to protect Jewish schools and mobilised thousands more security forces in the wake of the terror attacks in Paris.


Addressing parents of a Jewish school south of the capital, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said soldiers would also be posted as reinforcements at the country's 717 Jewish schools.

France is also mobilising a further 5,000 members of the security forces to protect other sensitive sites, a deployment which will begin on Tuesday.



quote:

Mr Valls said the search is urgent because "the threat is still present", and he added in an interview with BFM television that France is at war against "terrorism, against jihadism, against radical Islam".



More:http://news.sky.com/story/1406244/france-terror-police-and-army-deployed

Pensioners are warned: Learn the Internet or lose your benefits 12/1/2015



If spared, when I become a pensioner I will vote in every election I can; as a person who no longer makes any direct contribution to the national economy it will be the only way I can exert any influence.

Of course I won’t be voting for anyone whose policies seek to reduce my influence even further – say, by cutting my state-apportioned income, thereby making it harder for me to pay my bills and buy the things I like to buy (which thereby influences the economy. If relatively poor people like me don’t get to show retailers what we like, they’ll simply look to those who do have money – the ever-increasingly rich – and will tailor the market to suit those people and their price points; I will be priced out of the market).

Francis Maude seems to have forgotten this. He has decided that pensioners need to learn how to use government-run Internet sites in order to gain access to crucial services in the future.

Not for them the simple pleasure of spending their dotage playing the latest iteration of Farmville on Facebook, or Angry Birds, or the current ‘Waste-Your-Time-Saga’ – no!

If they want to make sure the right person gets lasting power of attorney over them, if they become mentally or physically incapacitated, or if they want to claim Carer’s Allowance, or for who-knows-what other service, they’ll have to learn how to log in “because we think that is a better thing for people’s lives,” according to Mr Maude.

Note the lack of any evidence base for this claim. And whose lives will be better as a result? The rich taxpayers who won’t be footing the bill for expensive pensioner services because poor granny or granddad can’t figure out how to claim them anymore? (Note: The experience of Universal Jobmatch shows that government websites are notoriously bad at providing helpful information and good at exploiting their users. Indeed, if Jobmatch is any yardstick, we may have an entire generation of geriatric pole-dancers and prostitutes in our collective future.)

But fear not! Help is at hand. According to the Telegraph: “Mr Maude said that online ‘refuseniks’,” – you see, he already has the derogatory nickname ready – “who did not want to use computers would be able to apply for a one-off lesson … to help them get on to the internet.”

“A one-off lesson”? Doesn’t Mr Maude understand that learning becomes much harder as people become older? The article goes on to say that there are an estimated five million people in their 80s and 90s who have never used the Internet. It’s a little late for them to start now!

Come to think of it, Mr Maude’s a bit long-in-the-fang himself – but these creatures never consider how they might cope with what they’re imposing on others. He won’t have to – he’s rich. He’ll have someone else to do it for him.

Poorer pensioners are unlikely even to be able to afford a computer, let alone learn how to use it. Mr Maude is deliberately setting them up to lose their statutory services.

His excuse will be that the services are there but people aren’t bothering to use them.

What a verminous rat.

It seems a strange way to treat the section of the electorate that has been most useful to Conservatives. Pensioners are the most faithful voters, and many of them have been faithful to the Conservative Party more than others, believing the Tories have treated them well.

Mr Maude has no intention of treating pensioners well.

The Conservative Party now wishes to stab the elderly in the back (metaphorically, if not literally, but the effect will be the same: Poorer pensioners will be sent to an early grave. This will further skew the apportionment of the national pension fund, into which we all pay. Even now, affluent pensioners receive more from the fund because their longer lives give them more opportunity to draw money out; under this scheme, there will be even fewer poor pensioners and they will die sooner).

Returning to the point made at the start of this article: When I am a pensioner I will most assuredly vote in every election I can – and I’ll be voting against the Tories.

Can I rely on every current pensioner to do the same?

Source of that piece of left wing propaganda?

verminous rat = no shortage

Manuel,

Your posted P 54848

"i am quite sure that this preacher must contravene those laws"


Similar mindset that some jihadists have, or at least for some to operate on??????

GF,

The changes introduced and being introduced in the "Welfare System" have been callous carried out by IDS in the name of the coalition government.

Many of the alterations have left the physically and mentally incapacitated in a state of limbo with no financial support for months.

The changes have been made in the form of obstacles, hoops and fences to prevent often the less able to get what should be the their entitlement in a decent society.

I have awareness of the difficulties that this self orientated insensitive tory cabal have created for the above groups of people.

I would like to see some IDS and mates, subjected to their own rules.

Also, to see those who claimed falsely for allowances they claimed as MPs. before the courts. (Whichever party they belonged to.)

Yep Fred I remember last year when IDS was asked could he live on £56 per week and he immediatly said yes but when challenged chickened out like his boss Chubby Dave.

Surprised you have time to post here gf as you seem to be carrying on your usual vendettas with various posters across the road. Highly amusing!