Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

You could probably charge the preacher, but not for much. He isn't suggesting more violence but just supporting what has already happened. You might be able to get him on race relation laws but I think it might be tricky. Either way, he would be out on bail in hours. Bear in mind that he is already out on bail anyway for something else. There does seem to be a gap in the legislation.

cynic I always buy the locals a pint and only use their bars and restaurants as they cook it in the kitchen were I can see them do it top notch they even cook me a snack to take back to my apartment

As a rule of thumb, if you can not swear allegiance to the country and not speak our language then you are a visitor here. As such please don't be offended if you overstay your welcome and are asked to leave. Of course a visitor should be treated differently to a citizen of our country, its not a human a matter of human right but more like 'king of the castle'..

Far better to "know the devil you do know rather then not" I would have thought, keep an eye on such people and act as appropriate would seem obvious.

Gold been on the up lately I see, Dollar down know doubt.

if someone is out on bail, is it not similar to be someone being released on parole - ie they are out on license?

if someone is out on bail, is it not similar to be someone being released on parole - ie they are out on license?

That was my thought too. Out on bail and you pull a stroke, back in.

Maybe it doesent apply to muzzers?

People with form that actually carry out any threat they make not picked up? That doesn't happen here or in the US does it?, I wonder why... think about it.

France Terror: Police And Army Deployed

Nearly 5,000 officers will protect Jewish schools, and thousands of troops will guard other sensitive sites following the attacks.




France has deployed nearly 5,000 police to protect Jewish schools and mobilised thousands more security forces in the wake of the terror attacks in Paris.


Addressing parents of a Jewish school south of the capital, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said soldiers would also be posted as reinforcements at the country's 717 Jewish schools.

France is also mobilising a further 5,000 members of the security forces to protect other sensitive sites, a deployment which will begin on Tuesday.



quote:

Mr Valls said the search is urgent because "the threat is still present", and he added in an interview with BFM television that France is at war against "terrorism, against jihadism, against radical Islam".



More:http://news.sky.com/story/1406244/france-terror-police-and-army-deployed

Pensioners are warned: Learn the Internet or lose your benefits 12/1/2015



If spared, when I become a pensioner I will vote in every election I can; as a person who no longer makes any direct contribution to the national economy it will be the only way I can exert any influence.

Of course I won’t be voting for anyone whose policies seek to reduce my influence even further – say, by cutting my state-apportioned income, thereby making it harder for me to pay my bills and buy the things I like to buy (which thereby influences the economy. If relatively poor people like me don’t get to show retailers what we like, they’ll simply look to those who do have money – the ever-increasingly rich – and will tailor the market to suit those people and their price points; I will be priced out of the market).

Francis Maude seems to have forgotten this. He has decided that pensioners need to learn how to use government-run Internet sites in order to gain access to crucial services in the future.

Not for them the simple pleasure of spending their dotage playing the latest iteration of Farmville on Facebook, or Angry Birds, or the current ‘Waste-Your-Time-Saga’ – no!

If they want to make sure the right person gets lasting power of attorney over them, if they become mentally or physically incapacitated, or if they want to claim Carer’s Allowance, or for who-knows-what other service, they’ll have to learn how to log in “because we think that is a better thing for people’s lives,” according to Mr Maude.

Note the lack of any evidence base for this claim. And whose lives will be better as a result? The rich taxpayers who won’t be footing the bill for expensive pensioner services because poor granny or granddad can’t figure out how to claim them anymore? (Note: The experience of Universal Jobmatch shows that government websites are notoriously bad at providing helpful information and good at exploiting their users. Indeed, if Jobmatch is any yardstick, we may have an entire generation of geriatric pole-dancers and prostitutes in our collective future.)

But fear not! Help is at hand. According to the Telegraph: “Mr Maude said that online ‘refuseniks’,” – you see, he already has the derogatory nickname ready – “who did not want to use computers would be able to apply for a one-off lesson … to help them get on to the internet.”

“A one-off lesson”? Doesn’t Mr Maude understand that learning becomes much harder as people become older? The article goes on to say that there are an estimated five million people in their 80s and 90s who have never used the Internet. It’s a little late for them to start now!

Come to think of it, Mr Maude’s a bit long-in-the-fang himself – but these creatures never consider how they might cope with what they’re imposing on others. He won’t have to – he’s rich. He’ll have someone else to do it for him.

Poorer pensioners are unlikely even to be able to afford a computer, let alone learn how to use it. Mr Maude is deliberately setting them up to lose their statutory services.

His excuse will be that the services are there but people aren’t bothering to use them.

What a verminous rat.

It seems a strange way to treat the section of the electorate that has been most useful to Conservatives. Pensioners are the most faithful voters, and many of them have been faithful to the Conservative Party more than others, believing the Tories have treated them well.

Mr Maude has no intention of treating pensioners well.

The Conservative Party now wishes to stab the elderly in the back (metaphorically, if not literally, but the effect will be the same: Poorer pensioners will be sent to an early grave. This will further skew the apportionment of the national pension fund, into which we all pay. Even now, affluent pensioners receive more from the fund because their longer lives give them more opportunity to draw money out; under this scheme, there will be even fewer poor pensioners and they will die sooner).

Returning to the point made at the start of this article: When I am a pensioner I will most assuredly vote in every election I can – and I’ll be voting against the Tories.

Can I rely on every current pensioner to do the same?

Source of that piece of left wing propaganda?

verminous rat = no shortage

Manuel,

Your posted P 54848

"i am quite sure that this preacher must contravene those laws"


Similar mindset that some jihadists have, or at least for some to operate on??????

GF,

The changes introduced and being introduced in the "Welfare System" have been callous carried out by IDS in the name of the coalition government.

Many of the alterations have left the physically and mentally incapacitated in a state of limbo with no financial support for months.

The changes have been made in the form of obstacles, hoops and fences to prevent often the less able to get what should be the their entitlement in a decent society.

I have awareness of the difficulties that this self orientated insensitive tory cabal have created for the above groups of people.

I would like to see some IDS and mates, subjected to their own rules.

Also, to see those who claimed falsely for allowances they claimed as MPs. before the courts. (Whichever party they belonged to.)

Yep Fred I remember last year when IDS was asked could he live on £56 per week and he immediatly said yes but when challenged chickened out like his boss Chubby Dave.

Surprised you have time to post here gf as you seem to be carrying on your usual vendettas with various posters across the road. Highly amusing!

Revealed: Why millions WON'T get the £155 new state pension they're expecting
By TONY HAZELL FOR THE DAILY MAIL


As many as four in five older workers could miss out on the full flat-rate state pension of £155 a week when it is introduced in 2016.
And millions face losing thousands of pounds in inflation-linked increases on company pensions.
The devastating blows, which throw into chaos the plans of those within two years of retirement, have been revealed in a Money Mail investigation into the small print of the new flat-rate pension.
A major pledge of the new pension was that everyone who had paid all their National Insurance contributions would be guaranteed to get £155 a week.
But we have uncovered a series of nasty surprises that are highly complex and technical. And they are likely to mean that many who expected to get the new £155 payout could get far less — and, disturbingly, not even the Government has calculated how much less.
Under the current system, these workers would qualify for the full basic state pension of £113.10 a week.
But under the new regime they would have their payout docked.
The problem affects employees, who, at some point in their working life, were members of a final-salary scheme.
Because these pensions were so generous, employees were allowed to opt-out of receiving extra benefits such as the State Second Pension. In exchange, they were allowed to pay a reduced rate of National Insurance.

Now the Government has decided that because they paid lower contributions, these workers should lose some of their new state pension.
Malcolm McLean, a consultant from actuaries Barnett Waddingham, warns: ‘The new flat-rate pension is not a more generous scheme than the current state pension. Middle to higher earners will be worse off in the longer term.’
The current state pension of £113.10 is paid to everyone who has 30 years’ National Insurance contributions.
On top of this, workers can earn extra benefits, called the State Second Pension (which used to be called the State Earnings Related Pension, or Serps), which boosts their payout in retirement.
Historically, workers in final-salary schemes were opted out of these extra benefits by their employer because their company pension was so good.

This was known as ‘contracting out’. In return, though, they paid a lower rate of National Insurance of 10.6 per cent, instead of the normal 12 per cent.
Government figures show that 80 per cent of older workers at some point contracted out in this way.
The level for the new pension has yet to be set, but it’s expected to be £155 a week when it starts in April 2016. Just like the current pension, what you get is based on National Insurance contributions - though you’ll need 35 years instead of 30 to get the full payout.
> New state pension ages: Do you know when you're going to retire?
In an attempt to make the system simpler, all additional benefits, such as the State Second Pension and Pension Credit, are being scrapped.
Initially, though, working out what you’ll get won’t be simple.
From April 2016 the Government will perform a complicated calculation to establish a ‘Foundation’ amount of state pension it thinks you are entitled to.


This is worked out from the years of basic state pension you’ve accrued, plus the amount of additional state pension earned. If the figure is less than £155 a week, then the payout will be boosted to this amount for those with 35 years of contributions.
But Money Mail has discovered the Government will then reduce a worker’s pension for every year they were contracted out, to reflect the lower National Insurance contributions that they paid in this period. Officials have not said how much they will take away — leaving people who are just 23 months from retirement with no idea how much state pension they will receive.
Some may get only the basic state pension — currently £113.10 per week — leaving them with £2,000 a year less income than they may have expected and casting a shadow over their retirement planning.
On top of this, we have discovered a further sting in these changes for private sector employees who were contracted out of Serps between 1978 and 1998.
At that time, final-salary schemes had to provide a so-called guaranteed minimum pension that promised at least the same benefits as Serps.
Changes: The new flat-rate state pension will be introduced in April 2016 in what is the biggest shake-up of the system in decades.
Changes: The new flat-rate state pension will be introduced in April 2016 in what is the biggest shake-up of the system in decades.
The inflation increases on this guaranteed part of their pension were partly or wholly funded by the Government.
But for those retiring after April 5, 2016, the Government will no longer pay these increases. Assuming someone started with a guaranteed pension of £100 a week, over a 20-year retirement, this person could be left £16,000 worse off.
This assumes their pension would have risen at a modest rate of inflation of 2.2 per cent.
The inflation changes are complex, but they mean that guaranteed minimum pension accumulated between 1978 and 1988 won’t increase at all in the future.
That earned between 1988 and 1997 may only receive part of any inflation increase.
When Money Mail contacted the Department for Work and Pensions, it claimed it had never actually paid these inflation increases and the belief stems from ‘an over-simplification’. Yet we have obtained Government statements and leaflets published over many years which state time and time again that it does pay these inflation increases.
Pensions expert Ros Altmann says: ‘When people contracted out they knew they were giving up rights to an additional state pension.
‘But now the rules are being retrospectively changed to remove inflation protection, decades after they made the decision — and, in some cases, not long before they retire.’
And this is not the end of the nasty surprises.
The Government is also ending a National Insurance rebate — worth 3.4 per cent — for employers who ran final- salary schemes.


In return, these schemes will be allowed to cut benefits or increase employee contributions without consulting their trustees. Employees in these schemes will see their National Insurance increase by an average £23 per week in 2016 as they start to pay the full 12 per cent rate.
Any change to their occupational pension would be a double blow.
Public sector employees will pay more National Insurance, but are protected from changes to their pensions for 25 years under a deal struck with the Government.
In response to questions about how the new flat-rate pension will be implemented, the Department for Work and Pensions confirmed that some workers will be denied the full £155 a week payment.
In a statement, it says: ‘It is therefore possible that someone might have 35 qualifying years when the new state pension is implemented and not receive the full single-tier amount.’

According to BBC news just 45% will get the £155.

Tories at it again....... sleaze, sleaze, sleaze.

You just cant trust this lot.

Why is France sending 5000 troops to defend 717 Jewish schools in the area? I'm lost I was under the impression that the attack wasn't directed at the Jewish population there...

Me too??????????