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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 28 Sep 2016 21:08 - 5492 of 12628

and as history has shown, it's a very short term view ..... middle management gets hit and actually produces very little in real terms and stifles spending ..... great logic for imposing it

MaxK - 28 Sep 2016 21:54 - 5493 of 12628

Whats logic got to do with it?

Corby is playing to the new party faithfull, some 7-800 thousand of them, and they love it.

Peeps have made the mistake of thinking Corby is old old labour, when in fact, he is nu nu labour, a logic free zone.

MaxK - 28 Sep 2016 23:12 - 5494 of 12628


Is Deutsche Bank the next Lehman Brothers? The denials certainly don't help suggest it's not

By
James Quinn
Group Business Editor James Quinn



28 September 2016 • 8:00pm



“Whether or not Deutsche can survive without a bail-out by the German government is the only topic most other European bankers want to discuss”


Full story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/28/is-deutsche-bank-the-next-lehman-brothers-the-denials-certainly/


Not exactly cutting edge stuff, but well worth a read imo.

cynic - 29 Sep 2016 09:03 - 5495 of 12628

on that basis it's surprising to see DAX roaring ahead

jimmy b - 29 Sep 2016 09:18 - 5496 of 12628

Deutsche is in trouble by the sounds of it ,been in the papers this week . Be careful with the DAX i put a short on FTSE this morning going too far too fast maybe the same with the DAX .

cynic - 29 Sep 2016 11:09 - 5497 of 12628

certainly there's money to be made on DAX - in both directions

Index Trading with the MT4 Somnus EA
is a good and knowledgeable thread, but the system and application may be beyond my tiny brain

jimmy b - 03 Oct 2016 08:40 - 5498 of 12628

I'm liking what i am hearing from May in Birmingham so far ,it looks like won't accept free movement ,lets wait and see.
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Theresa May has set Britain on course to leave the EU by 2019 in her first major speech on Brexit, saying that the UK would become a "fully independent, sovereign" country in the clearest sign yet that she wants a clean break from Europe's single market. The prime minister told cheering Conservative supporters at the Tory party's annual conference that Britain would insist on taking full control of immigration and refuse to accept the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice

Fred1new - 03 Oct 2016 09:38 - 5499 of 12628

A dream, when you wake up in the morning is still a dream!

VICTIM - 03 Oct 2016 09:48 - 5500 of 12628

Better than a nightmare though .

Dil - 03 Oct 2016 09:58 - 5501 of 12628

Nice one TM , always knew she was a closet leaver.

Hard Brexit it is then.

Dil - 03 Oct 2016 10:07 - 5502 of 12628

And your coming with us Scotland so get used to it Nicola.

cynic - 03 Oct 2016 10:25 - 5503 of 12628

there's a great many twists and turns still to come and it just may be that one party or another will manipulate a position whereby an early GE is indeed called

anyway, this so-genannte Great Repeal Act sounds an excellent way of taking power back from Brussels without throwing sensible legislation out with the bath water

lots and lots for fred to stay grumpy about :-)

Fred1new - 03 Oct 2016 10:57 - 5504 of 12628

When the pound sterling reaches parity with the Euro, will it be a good thing, or are we heading to be just another banana republic?

cynic - 03 Oct 2016 11:11 - 5505 of 12628

i see no reason at all for € persistent strength, but except when it went to 1.40 about 18 months ago, (imo) it has been ridiculously o'valued and still is

MaxK - 03 Oct 2016 11:25 - 5506 of 12628

If/when the quid reaches parity with the €urobun, the €uropean exporters can say goodbye to the british market...should do wonders for their economies.

Fred1new - 03 Oct 2016 13:07 - 5507 of 12628

Max.

Have an interesting read:

Don't believe it:

https://www.cer.org.uk/insights/would-britain%E2%80%99s-trade-be-freer-outside-eu

MaxK - 03 Oct 2016 14:36 - 5508 of 12628

It is an interesting read Fred.

Shame it's so one sided, and assumes that various countries inside the €U are willing to commit economic suicide by excluding blighty flat out.

The trade split as I have read is about 60/40 in the €urozones favour.

For example:

Blighty is the german car manufacturers biggest export destination.

We buy more French wine than any other country.


That's just two examples..but it boils down to cutting off your nose to spite your face.


Do you really think they will do that...really?

Fred1new - 03 Oct 2016 14:42 - 5509 of 12628



French wine will be too expensive for you.

Try Central Valley Chilean.

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I doubt that once the real chaos of Brexit starts that the UK will be the flavour of the month, except for turning London into a weekend trip venue for the French and Germans.

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(Forgot about visas.)





jimmy b - 03 Oct 2016 14:51 - 5510 of 12628

The unions on it's way out anyway .

cynic - 03 Oct 2016 15:50 - 5511 of 12628

there's loads of rubbish being spouted everywhere including here
95% of what you read on brexit will be for domestic consumption
the actuality will not be apparent for a great many more months - eg about 2 years
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