Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Max and DB4,

Were you referring to :


or this:

54938 - and isn't extraordinary that whichever side produces figures, they always totally contradict .... clearly it all depends on what version of the truth is wanted to be portrayed

Partly the problem is that if one country goes for tremendous growth with massive borrowing and artificially reducing unemployment : others follow, otherwise jealousy and envy sets in....with political parties it's the same....labour have always been a disaster for the country followed by years of hardship with the tories and then you have labour again crowing about how badly done everybody is with the cuts and so forth....and so it goes on the eternal right and left battling on how to run the UK.....badly most of the time...

I'm glad these delivery companies don't work for the NHS because the newborn would all be delivered in vans and not in hospitals as planned ....and not in time...

You'd have to have midwives on motorcycles...

in all seriousness, home births are now being encouraged where no complications are expected

Tell me which deliveries won't be liable to "problems"?

It has always struck me as daft,that home births are being encouraged, when a foetus is hibernated in a uterus for approximately 40 weeks (hard work) before delivery of minutes to hours.

For the sake of the safety for the mother and child being born next to or in in a safe obstetric unit delivery with all the facilities and skills, which are set up for dealing with "complication", some parents opt for home delivery, with the possibility of "delivery complication", foetal "anoxia" and its later ongoing life long problems for the child, which it has to live with.

It's to save money Fred, what else?

i think it saves bed space rather than money, and i think there are a good number of births that can be predicted to be problem-free with a fair degree of certainty

nevertheless, i know Beloved wouldn't have wanted a home birth, though to be fair, hers were not entirely without problems, albeit nothing dramatic

Euhhh...I meant parcel deliveries...never mind.....

Did anyone see the 'Hampton Court Palace' programme on the telly a few nights ago?

There was an explanation of how Queens of England used to die not too long after giving birth in the times of Henry VIII.

And the main reason?

Inadequate removal of the birth placenta, which then duly rotted and caused something like Sepsis and consequent death. Midwives almost seem to have been chosen because of their 'purity' (ie. utter lack of experience!). They daren't stuff their hand into the Queen's uterus and fish the last few bits of placenta out - or whatever they do...??

Were you Beloved's problem?

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Part of it is due to some "militant midwives" and "natural birthers'" pressure. Costed out, I don't know.

Never understood why have a small work shop (home care) is more expensive than industrial sized unit i.e. hospital, or "care" unit with all facilities without duplication of "tools". Less delivery cost of "aids" and "staff or helpers", etc,.

Often puzzled me.

But who am I?

sounds good tv, but puerperal (childbed) fever was primarily caused through lack of hygiene

When was washing of hands advocated in "obstetrics, or midwifery".


Or in other areas of medicine and surgery!

amazingly not :-)
rhesus negative in fact ..... and no i didn't marry a monkey though arguably she married a chimp

I was told that if you pay your employees peanuts : you get monkeys....

Who employed you?

How many peanuts a day did you get?


I can see why you became a boss, somebody was bound to listen to you!

8-)

I think the above was off target!

8-)

you primate

Check out ITM power.....graph looking good...