goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 10:49
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Meanwhile safe in Wavy Dave's hands.
A&E waits in England 'getting worse'
This week's figures for England:
95%
target for patients seen in 4 hours at A&E
79.8%
patients seen in 4 hours at major A&E hospitals
86.7%
patients seen in 4 hours at all A&E units
And this is without a epidemic or real winter flush.
doodlebug4
- 15 Jan 2015 10:58
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Fred, you could hardly compare cars and guns as equally deadly weapons. It's oh so easy to break the law in this country if you own a motor car. I got caught two years ago doing 34mph in a 30 zone. It's equally as dangerous in my view to have old, dithery folks driving cars - especially on motorways.
Haystack
- 15 Jan 2015 11:01
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More dangerous! Different cars have different risks. The stopping distance figures vary hugely by model. Some cars can stop in just over their length at 30mph. Maybe higher speed limits for Ferraris?
cynic
- 15 Jan 2015 11:05
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you mean like fred perhaps ..... never had an accident or been done for speeding but caused plenty through dopey and/or inconsiderate driving - eg sitting in the motorway outside lane "because i'm doing 70"
Stan
- 15 Jan 2015 11:06
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"More dangerous! Different cars have different risks."
And what about the drivers? the type of car is not the most important factor, as the driver usually "adjusts" his thinking to the car's technological state.
Haystack
- 15 Jan 2015 11:14
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Drivers tend to underestimate stopping distance. It is quite rare for most drivers ever to have to do an emergency stop in potential accident conditions. I would rather be in a Ferrari that had to stop suddenly at any speed.
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 11:15
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DB4.
Suggest you look at :
http://cdn.johnhenry.net/rac/rac_foundation2/content/downloadables/roads%20and%20reality%20-%20bayliss%20-%20accident%20trends%20by%20road%20type%20-%20160309%20-%20background%20paper%209.pdf
Have a look at the charts!
(They are not pure.)
In general motorways are safer than other roads.
Accidents, I haven't checked but from memory accident levels in "juniors" far higher than "seniors". Hence difference in insurance costs.
I must admit I do slip over the speed limit and have to "slow", but since driving a "heavy" vehicle as well as a "normal" car, for last 20 years, have become aware of "breaking" distances and real "manoeuvrability" and reduced my speeds according to conditions by approximately 20%.
(Strangely, on the continent I find my speed is usually just within defined and shown speed limits. )
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 11:21
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DB4,
PS.
Cars are used as weapons, as can be seem from the behaviours and "murders" using them over the last few years.
The driving of some can be seen as using a "dangerous" weapon with disregard for others.
Pedestrians, mown down on pavements etc, and Airport in Scotland etc..
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Manuel,
Are you suggesting you knowingly wish to overtake somebody in the outside lane at more than 70 MPH.
It is indicative of THE LAW APPLIES to OTHERS, NOT ME. Strikes me as psychopathic.
I think you need a personality scan to see if you are still allowed out!
Haystack
- 15 Jan 2015 11:40
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It looks like Cameron is on the right lines!
http://order-order.com/2015/01/15/72-say-let-greens-in-leaders-debate/
72% Say Let Greens in Leaders Debate
How much is Dave’s “chicken” debate demand to let the Greens take part hurting him with voters? A YouGov/Sun poll today finds 7 in 10 agree with the PM that Natalie Bennett should be allowed in. Meanwhile, overnight:
Guido understands as of yesterday UKIP’s memberships stands at 41,943, but the Greens have now overtaken that. Over to the broadcasters…
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 11:46
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DO THEY HAVE MORE REAL MEMBERS than THE TORRID PARTY YET?
Perhaps. they can't afford the "DONATION" LEVEL for backhanders that applies!
doodlebug4
- 15 Jan 2015 11:48
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Cameron made that point about the Green Party yesterday at PMQs - much to Clegg's discomfort! Very amusing.
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 11:50
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I agree the Green's should be have a representative included in the Election Debate, as well as the SNP.
Not sure about smaller groups i.e. Plaid etc..
How you organise such a debate has its problems???
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 11:50
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ExecLine
- 15 Jan 2015 14:13
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goldfinger
- 15 Jan 2015 17:00
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Labour lead at 2
Latest YouGov / The Sun results 14th January - Con 32%, Lab 34%, LD 6%, UKIP 15%, GRN 7%
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 17:09
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General Election 2015: Nigel Farage to get same BBC airtime as David Cameron
The BBC says: 'UK-wide programmes must ensure that UKIP is given appropriate levels of coverage in output to which the largest parties contribute and, on some occasions, similar levels of coverage.'
Greens will have less coverage.
We may see an empty podium, as Cameron melts away.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11347992/General-Election-2015-Nigel-Farage-to-get-same-BBC-airtime-as-David-Cameron.html
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 17:09
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General Election 2015: Nigel Farage to get same BBC airtime as David Cameron
The BBC says: 'UK-wide programmes must ensure that UKIP is given appropriate levels of coverage in output to which the largest parties contribute and, on some occasions, similar levels of coverage.'
Greens will have less coverage.
We may see an empty podium, as Cameron melts away.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11347992/General-Election-2015-Nigel-Farage-to-get-same-BBC-airtime-as-David-Cameron.html
Fred1new
- 15 Jan 2015 17:11
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Scotland seems to have had a lucky escape with oil.