Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred, you could hardly compare cars and guns as equally deadly weapons. It's oh so easy to break the law in this country if you own a motor car. I got caught two years ago doing 34mph in a 30 zone. It's equally as dangerous in my view to have old, dithery folks driving cars - especially on motorways.

More dangerous! Different cars have different risks. The stopping distance figures vary hugely by model. Some cars can stop in just over their length at 30mph. Maybe higher speed limits for Ferraris?

you mean like fred perhaps ..... never had an accident or been done for speeding but caused plenty through dopey and/or inconsiderate driving - eg sitting in the motorway outside lane "because i'm doing 70"

"More dangerous! Different cars have different risks."

And what about the drivers? the type of car is not the most important factor, as the driver usually "adjusts" his thinking to the car's technological state.

Drivers tend to underestimate stopping distance. It is quite rare for most drivers ever to have to do an emergency stop in potential accident conditions. I would rather be in a Ferrari that had to stop suddenly at any speed.

DB4.

Suggest you look at :

http://cdn.johnhenry.net/rac/rac_foundation2/content/downloadables/roads%20and%20reality%20-%20bayliss%20-%20accident%20trends%20by%20road%20type%20-%20160309%20-%20background%20paper%209.pdf



Have a look at the charts!

(They are not pure.)

In general motorways are safer than other roads.

Accidents, I haven't checked but from memory accident levels in "juniors" far higher than "seniors". Hence difference in insurance costs.

I must admit I do slip over the speed limit and have to "slow", but since driving a "heavy" vehicle as well as a "normal" car, for last 20 years, have become aware of "breaking" distances and real "manoeuvrability" and reduced my speeds according to conditions by approximately 20%.

(Strangely, on the continent I find my speed is usually just within defined and shown speed limits. )

DB4,

PS.

Cars are used as weapons, as can be seem from the behaviours and "murders" using them over the last few years.

The driving of some can be seen as using a "dangerous" weapon with disregard for others.

Pedestrians, mown down on pavements etc, and Airport in Scotland etc..

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Manuel,

Are you suggesting you knowingly wish to overtake somebody in the outside lane at more than 70 MPH.

It is indicative of THE LAW APPLIES to OTHERS, NOT ME. Strikes me as psychopathic.

I think you need a personality scan to see if you are still allowed out!

It looks like Cameron is on the right lines!

http://order-order.com/2015/01/15/72-say-let-greens-in-leaders-debate/

72% Say Let Greens in Leaders Debate

How much is Dave’s “chicken” debate demand to let the Greens take part hurting him with voters? A YouGov/Sun poll today finds 7 in 10 agree with the PM that Natalie Bennett should be allowed in. Meanwhile, overnight:



Guido understands as of yesterday UKIP’s memberships stands at 41,943, but the Greens have now overtaken that. Over to the broadcasters…

DO THEY HAVE MORE REAL MEMBERS than THE TORRID PARTY YET?

Perhaps. they can't afford the "DONATION" LEVEL for backhanders that applies!

Cameron made that point about the Green Party yesterday at PMQs - much to Clegg's discomfort! Very amusing.

I agree the Green's should be have a representative included in the Election Debate, as well as the SNP.

Not sure about smaller groups i.e. Plaid etc..

How you organise such a debate has its problems???

.

This candidate talks some sense! I see 79% of voters would vote him in - as against ony 21% for Nigel Farage:

The Al Murray Manifesto

• The pound in your pocket

The pound will be revalued at one pound 10p, so it will now be worth 10p more. Common sense.

• The NHS

If you come to A&E and it’s neither an accident nor an emergency then you will be sent to a random hospital department to be practised on. Common sense.

• Foreign Policy

Germany has been too quiet for too long. Just saying.

• Immigration

Of course the reason they are coming here is because this is the greatest country in the world.

The only way to stop them is for a government to change that and make things a whole lot worse. Look no further.

However, in the meantime, we brick up the Channel Tunnel. With British bricks.

Probably have to get some Poles in to do it. Common sense.

• Education

I believe the children are the future and there’s no way you'll get me knocking teachers.

Teachers are on the front line, coalface. Doing their bit to create a level playing field for our kids, although I'm not sure they're going about it the right way by making sure none of the kids can read and write.

So instead of a postcode lottery a new improved Street Raffle will determine which schools your kids get in to. Common sense.

• Scotland

Alex Salmond to be made First Minister for Norwich, so he can get to understand what being ignored by the rest of the country is really like. Common sense.

• Europe

I pledge that the UK will leave Europe by 2025 and the edge of the Solar System by 2050. Common market sense.

In the meantime Greece to be bought and operated by Kent County Council. Couldn’t be worse. Someone to do the bins at least.

• The environment

Boris Johnson to be put on an island. He keeps saying that’s what he wants.

• Corporations and Globalisation

Blah blah blah blah blah paradigm blah blah blah, blah blah dialectic blah blah blah blah blah blah game-changer.

• Homes for hard working families

Build some houses but without bringing down house prices. How hard can it be?

• Defence

National Service, but only for people who don’t want to do it.

• Law and Order

Unemployment causes crime: I propose to lock up the unemployed. Common sense.

• On Local Issues

South Thanet to be made the new capital of the UK. Demilitarised zone to set-up between North and South Thanet.

Blackberry shares soar 30% on Samsung's offer to buy company

Labour lead at 2

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 14th January - Con 32%, Lab 34%, LD 6%, UKIP 15%, GRN 7%

General Election 2015: Nigel Farage to get same BBC airtime as David Cameron
The BBC says: 'UK-wide programmes must ensure that UKIP is given appropriate levels of coverage in output to which the largest parties contribute and, on some occasions, similar levels of coverage.'

Greens will have less coverage.

We may see an empty podium, as Cameron melts away.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11347992/General-Election-2015-Nigel-Farage-to-get-same-BBC-airtime-as-David-Cameron.html

General Election 2015: Nigel Farage to get same BBC airtime as David Cameron
The BBC says: 'UK-wide programmes must ensure that UKIP is given appropriate levels of coverage in output to which the largest parties contribute and, on some occasions, similar levels of coverage.'

Greens will have less coverage.

We may see an empty podium, as Cameron melts away.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11347992/General-Election-2015-Nigel-Farage-to-get-same-BBC-airtime-as-David-Cameron.html

Scotland seems to have had a lucky escape with oil.

Why not put a spitting image dummy in Camorons place.

Well this what we have in as a government now: