Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

matter of opinion
it's quirky and the locals will talk to you, so that's a good starting point

By Patrick Sawer, Camilla Turner and Ben Leach
1:49PM GMT 17 Jan 2015
Labour activists have been told not to talk to voters about the economy because "it's not our strong point", veteran party member tells Ed Miliband

Labour was faced with new embarrassment on Saturday after a veteran party member claimed that activists have been instructed not to speak about the economy to voters because “it’s not our strong point”.

The revelation, made at a Fabian Society conference addressed by Ed Miliband, will heap fresh pressure on the party following claims activists were told not to talk about immigration when canvassing constituents during the election campaign.

Cecil Jenkins, a Labour Party member from Hampstead, asked Mr Miliband, following the leader’s keynote speech at the Fabian Society’s New Year Conference, why the ban on talking to the economy had been introduced.

He told him that local Labour activists have been advised by the London regional party not to talk to voters about the economy “as its not our strong point”.

Mr Jenkins said: "We have been told by London region not to talk too much about the economy because it is not one of our strengths. Can this conceivably be true?"

Mr Miliband responded by denying this was the case, adding: "We should talk about the economy as much as possible between now and general election, because they have failed."

When approached at the conference by this newspaper, Mr Jenkins, a writer and historian, said: "This is a small internal matter. The information was passed to me indirectly, it was written off as ridiculous."

Mr Jenkins refused to comment further.

In December The Telegraph revealed that Labour MPs had been secretly ordered not to campaign on immigration because doing so could cost them the next election.

A private strategy document circulated by Labour HQ and seen by this newspaper warned that the bigger immigration becomes as a campaign issue the more votes the party will lose.

MPs were told to focus on “moving the conversation on” if voters express concerns about border controls to topics Labour is stronger on such as health care or housing. They were also urged not to send leaflets on immigration to all voters because it could be “unhelpful” and “risks undermining the broad coalition of support we need to return to government”.

The latest diktat emerged after Mr Miliband told the conference that the Conservative’s only plan for the economy was to slash state spending further, and he again accused David Cameron of cowardice for refusing to take part in televised general election debates.


Mr Miliband said: "Five years of denial, complacency and failure on living standards, and less than four months before an election, he [Chancellor George Osborne] claims to have woken up to the problem.

"You can't wipe out five years of failure on living standards with pre-election pleading. You can't magic away people being £1,600 a year worse off by trying to take credit for falling oil prices."

The alleged instruction to ignore the economy was soon being discussed on social media on Saturday.

George Eaton, political editor of the left-leaning New Statesman, wrote on Twitter: “Fabian questioner adds that he’s been told by London Labour not to speak about the economy ‘as it’s not one of our strengths’.”

He later added: "Miliband to questioner who was told by London Lab. not to talk about the economy: 'We should [talk] about the economy as much as possible'."

Emily Ashton, another political reporter, wrote: “Labour member from Hampstead: ‘We’ve been told by the London region not to talk about the economy. Can this conceivably be true?’ Ed: ‘No.’”

Labour officials denied any such instruction had been issued to activists.

A spokesman for the party said: "It's utter nonsense to suggest, on the day that Ed Miliband has delivered a 30 minute speech on the economy, that Labour is not talking about the economy. Nobody from Labour HQ has told people not to talk about the economy. Mr Jenkins is mistaken."

Courtesy of stardrops on the other board.




In London an old priest lay dying in the hospital.



For years he had faithfully served the people of the nation's capital.



He motioned for his nurse to come near.

"Yes, Father?" said the nurse.

"I would really like to see the Prime Minister and the Treasurer

before I die", whispered the priest.

"I'll see what I can do, Father", replied the nurse.

The nurse sent the request to Parliament and waited for a response.

Soon the word arrived; Prime Minister David Camoran and Treasurer

George Osbourne would be delighted to visit the priest.

As they went to the hospital, David commented to George, "I don't

know why the old priest wants to see us, but it will certainly will

help our images and might even get me re-elected Prime Minister. After

all, I need a ratings boost



George agreed that it was a good thing.

When they arrived at the priest's room, the priest took David's hand

in his right hand and George's hand in his left.

There was silence and a look of serenity on the old priest's face.

Finally David Camoron spoke. "Father, of all the people you could have

chosen, why did you choose us to be with you as you near the end?"



The old priest slowly replied, "I have always tried to pattern my life

after that of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."

"Amen", said David. "Amen", said George.

The old priest continued, "Jesus died between two lying thieving

b%st*rds; I would like to do the same

Labour will hardly discuss anything. Miliband only gives speeches when only the faithful are present. Labour won't let him speak to real people as they fear a 'bigoted woman' moment. At some stage he is going to look an idiot again, as they can't lock him away all the time. His most recent speech was at the Fabian society where he feels safe.

Labour's worst nightmare is taking shape. The price of oil has tanked, reducing not only inflation but costs for business. They are looking at the possibility of rising wages, falling costs and inflation. One of their last cards to play looks like turning out to be the two of clubs. Every one of their predictions has failed to come true.

LOL that from a bloke who supports Giddeon Osbourne a man who as missed 100% of his economic targets and as had to move the goal posts to con people he is getting the Deficit down LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL .

Increased wages??????? again LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL ....0.5% inflation gives him a chance to say a 1% wage rise is a big thing LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

The working class have now got the measure of Dodgy Dave and cunning Giddeon.

Ask yourself why as he launched 4% pensioners bonds just before the GE......LOL, we all know why because 0.5% interest rates from the Banks arent going to please pensioners.

The Tories day is over they are a party of the past. Good riddance.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914876/Bombshell-memoir-Miliband-s-former-ally-reveals-Ed-set-fire-carpet-bought-prayer-mat-cover-asked-think-brother-better-looking-me.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914839/Two-Eds-hid-truth-global-crash-Miliband-Balls-knew-UK-economy-fall-cliff-year-happened-kept-secret.html

Two Eds hid truth about global crash: Miliband and Balls knew UK economy was due to 'fall off a cliff' a year before it happened... but kept it a secret

The pair reportedly urged Gordon Brown to call a snap election in 2008

Knew it was only way Labour could hold power once economy crumbled

George Osborne said revelation ‘exposed cynicism’ of Balls and Miliband

Labour leader has not denied claim, dismissing it as ‘ancient history’

The claim appears in explosive new memoir of Martin Winter - who helped turn Miliband into an MP

Max.

I have sent that P55164 to all my Christian friends.

PS.

Good enough to post once or twice again, after a hazy mantra!

doodlebug4 - 55159

Quiet'ish is very important - no screaming children please!!

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You won't be allowed in any pub!

Haystack Send an email to Haystack View Haystack's profile - 17 Jan 2015 20:32 - 55165 of 55171

Labour will hardly discuss anything. Miliband only gives speeches when only the faithful are present. Labour won't let him speak to real people as they fear a 'bigoted woman' moment. At some stage he is going to look an idiot again, as they can't lock him away all the time. His most recent speech was at the Fabian society where he feels safe.



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Haze,

Always thought of you as the "man on the bus"!

Now realise, that I was really thinking of you as "the man off his trolley"!

Before we draw up the drawbridges I think we should consider the countries that the West milked for years.

the above cartoon can be interpreted in any number of ways

islamic extremism is not a result of whatever nonsense you are trying to promote, any more than the crusades were religiously based

is it not quite amusing and the timing purely coincidental that bambi's and his millions are now being investigated - see ST headlines

i'm sure the sunday mirror and its ilk will be publishing similar coincidental stories to cast shadows or worse on the tories

Britain's political landscape: A commentator who accurately predicted the European election results has been reading the runes again as the general election approaches






Full article and better graphics here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/britains-political-landscape-a-commentator-who-accurately-predicted-the-european-election-results-has-been-reading-the-runes-again-as-the-general-election-approaches-9985761.html

Haze.

Re: Miliband 2008 and possible economic crash.

From my notes, many thought that the economy was over heating as far back 2004-6 onward and were pointing to the inflation in housing and general borrowing etc..

The tories were preaching further deregulation of the City and Financial Services, who were pushing out money, derivatives and gambling like a casino.

(Look back at some threads on Moneyam and some were thinking of moving out of "property".)

The problem with "democracy" as "practiced" is when it should go against general public "general" opinion, the government "ducks" its responsibility, as can be seen by the coalition and especially this tory element which is attempting to be a "populist" party, but has twisted and turned so much, the voters don't know what it really stands for.

Napoleon,

Is this more to your liking,

i know you have a fixation for attaching great numbers of cartoons every day, but .....

so what point are you trying to make this time?
are you trying to imply that this all the west's fault or some similar twaddle?

No,

Just trying to get you to think, rather than just respond!

Alf, you have demonstrated on a daily basis that you have no ears, but now your eyes don't seem to clever either... and as for your brain who knows.

When's your next Mot at the Docs due? -):