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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 03 Oct 2016 20:36 - 5516 of 12628

T.May is making ALL the right noises, The Eu will have to realize that there
cannot be free movement, and it should be made a red line, and made now
so it has plenty of time for it to sink in to the gangsters in Brussels and the
remainer dreamers in the UK...

cynic - 03 Oct 2016 20:41 - 5517 of 12628

the idea of "licenced immigration" so that specific skill shortages can be met is eminently sensible

MaxK - 03 Oct 2016 21:12 - 5518 of 12628

Sensible and €U is an oxywhatsit.

Haystack - 03 Oct 2016 21:59 - 5519 of 12628

Years ago we had a system called work permits

Fred1new - 04 Oct 2016 08:59 - 5520 of 12628


Sums it up!

MaxK - 04 Oct 2016 09:11 - 5521 of 12628

Theresa May vows to protect troops from 'legal witch hunt' by opting out of European human rights rules



By Peter Dominiczak, Political Editor and
Robert Mendick, Chief Reporter
4 October 2016 • 8:47am




British soldiers will never again face a legal witch hunt, Theresa May will pledge as she says that European human rights laws will no longer apply on the battlefield.

In a joint announcement with Sir Michael Fallon, the Defence Secretary, the Prime Minister will say that UK troops will be protected from the “industry of vexatious claims that has pursued those who served in previous conflicts”.

Mrs May and Sir Michael will say that in future conflicts Britain will opt out of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), protecting our frontline forces from “spurious” legal claims.

Their intervention is a major victory for soldiers, MPs and senior military figures who have fought against the hounding of troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan over allegations that date back as long ago as 2003.

The Telegraph has repeatedly highlighted the plight of British troops facing criminal and civil allegations of abuse in the aftermath of Iraq and Afghanistan.




more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/03/theresa-may-vows-to-protect-troops-from-legal-witch-hunt-by-opti/

jimmy b - 04 Oct 2016 09:12 - 5522 of 12628

I'm beginning to like her ,she's saying all the right things ,lets hope she's for real .

Dil - 04 Oct 2016 09:18 - 5523 of 12628

Choice has been made Fred and as grannyboy says it gives the EU a chance to come to terms with the fact that there will be no negotiations over freedom of movement. EU now need to come up with a plan re trade and we'll get back to them on it.

Our stance is likely to find a lot of support among many voters in France and Germany which will work in our favour.

End of the day if we end up being treated like the rest of the world by the EU then so be it.

jimmy b - 04 Oct 2016 09:21 - 5524 of 12628

No point telling Fred that ,he's the same as Corbyn , it's what they want not what the people want.

MaxK - 04 Oct 2016 09:23 - 5525 of 12628

Not a bad start!


* Hunt: 1,500 new British doctors per year

* Fallon: British troops to be protected from war crimes claims

* Rudd: New plans to deport EU criminals

* Truss: Recruitment drive to tackle prison violence and drugs



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/04/jeremy-hunt-nhs-doctors-theresa-may-conservative-conference-live/

MaxK - 04 Oct 2016 09:24 - 5526 of 12628

Fred will be having conniptions ... :-)

jimmy b - 04 Oct 2016 09:25 - 5527 of 12628

Nothing will be what Fred wants .

Fred1new - 04 Oct 2016 11:35 - 5528 of 12628

"Fallon: British troops to be protected from war crimes claims"

Will that apply to those jolly foreigners who commit crimes against UK soldiers and citizens?


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"Truss: Recruitment drive to tackle prison violence and drugs"

Will that need higher recruitment of prison officers?

Expensive??

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The Exiters have the bark of large dogs without teeth.

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Dil.

I await to see who is queuing up to do deals with the UK in preference to the EU.

The trades will have similar regulations and rules, except that the UK will have little to do with their negotiation of the rules or regulations.


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Edited for Dil.



Fred1new - 04 Oct 2016 11:47 - 5529 of 12628

I see Fallon is opening recruitment offices for the Arm Forces in Eton and Harrow and Roedean School.

8-)

There may be room for Dumbos as cannon fodder.

jimmy b - 04 Oct 2016 12:48 - 5530 of 12628

"Fallon: British troops to be protected from war crimes claims"

Will that apply to those jolly foreigners who commit crimes against UK soldiers and citizens?
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Yes hopefully Fred it will protect terrorists who come here to blow us up , no wonder you like Corbyn and Mc Donnell !!

Dil - 04 Oct 2016 13:20 - 5531 of 12628

Fred , regardless of what Obama said the UK is likely to do a deal with the US quicker than the EU will even though it's been negotiating one for years imo.

I don't understand your second sentence , trades with who ?

Fred1new - 04 Oct 2016 13:29 - 5532 of 12628

Dil

P 5529 edited.

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I will wait for the golden dawn of new future contracts.

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What is stopping those contracts being done now?

MaxK - 04 Oct 2016 14:59 - 5533 of 12628

Something to cheer you up Fred...and it's in the Graun, so it must be true!


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/04/britain-fastest-growing-g7-economy-imf-international-monetary-fund-brexit-vote



Dil - 04 Oct 2016 19:27 - 5534 of 12628

Think it's because we are still part of the EU Fred but I'm sure preliminary talks are already taking place with a number of countries.

Haystack - 04 Oct 2016 21:39 - 5535 of 12628

Diane James the new head of UKIP has resigned after 18 days.

Will Farage be back as leader?
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