Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Opinium in the Observer have topline figures of CON 28%(-2), LAB 33%(nc), LDEM 7%(-1), UKIP 20%(+3), GRN 6%(+2) – a return to decent Labour lead after their poll a fortnight ago had shown things tightening up.

ComRes’s monthly online poll for the Independent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror has no such movement, with the race remaining very tight. Their topline voting intentions show virtually no change from last month’s, with topline figures of CON 33%(nc), LAB 34%(nc), LDEM 7%(-1), UKIP 18%(nc), GRN 3%(+1)

YouGov in the Sunday Times also show a one point Labour lead with topline figures of CON 31%, LAB 32%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 18%, GRN 7%. There is a second (and completely separate) YouGov poll in the Sun on Sunday but with fairly similar topline figures, CON 31% and LAB 33%.

And another one.........

Labour lead at 1

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 16th January - Con 31%, Lab 32%, LD 7%, UKIP 18%, GRN 7%;

The only thing that can save the Tories is a tax give away in the budget, no doubt giddeon is going to do this but it will be uncosted and with £7 billion already uncosted I cant see the working class falling for it.

If the great unwashed will swallow millibands bullshit, I've no doubt they will also swallow cameroons.

I have a "feeling" that the "general" public are fed up with the constant smearing of Ed Miliband and Ed Balls and both are keeping their powders dry until nearer the election.

And, for the time being, will happily accept the taunts of the Cameron and Osborne which appear to be backfiring onto themselves.

The tory blame game is looking more and more feeble after five years of misgovernment.

They are lucky for the time being that the "Oil prices" have taken a dive, and that the effect spreads across to the "cost of living" for the time being. But the effect on GDP in 3 months time is guess work, especially when the effects are felt in Europe with possible slow down of their economies


Also, have a "feeling" that they think Cameron is false and Osborne and he are brazen liars, reminding them of second hand car dealers of old. Their employment figures do not add up with productivity.

They know the figures presented by the present governments spokesmen don't add up and when they present them "glibly" can be seen lying through their teeth.

The country itself has moved on, but the tories have not and many wish to return to the "political ideological morality" of the 1930s.

Personally, I think Ed Miliband will be the leader of the next coalition with Labour, Lib/Dem, SNP and the tories have an internecine breakup.

It seems to me, that Farage although effecting the results because of desertions of tories to the UKIP may end up with 5-10 MPS, but I doubt that any other party would be prepared to dirty their hands with his type of "political ideology."

Farage, if he himself is elected, I doubt will be a peripheral irritant only.
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Max,

What exactly do you think Farage is offering you other than a pint, a fag and a laugh?

Just out of interest, who are his "financial backers"?

I have a feeling that Fred is talking a load of utter bollocks as usual.:-)

Wait and see!

fred is an inveterate pedagogue who only lectures and occasionally hectors his audience ... as you may have noticed, he never ever answers a question, and if the question posed is too pointed, he'll immediately sidetrack

Manuel,

You are projecting again.

Look in the mirror.

Are you feeling persecuted, as well.

not at all, but i do find your perpetual preaching very tiresome and repetitive though i happily avoid most of it

it is also pretty dull that you never ever answer a question, but then i suppose that is your democratic right, as is not voting

Stan - 18 Jan 2015 11:08 - 55181 of 55195

Alf, you have demonstrated on a daily basis that you have no ears, but now your eyes don't seem to clever either... and as for your brain who knows.

When's your next Mot at the Docs due? -):

Napoleon,

Control your zeal and save yourself a little more time by not commenting on what you haven't read.

Could be the basis of many of your ill formed opinions.

You are like a man who goes to the library to keep warm, but never reads the books.

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Must finish making the Pâté.

Again the labour party are so honest.


Two Eds hid truth about global crash: Miliband and Balls knew UK economy was due to 'fall off a cliff' a year before it happened... but kept it a secret
The pair reportedly urged Gordon Brown to call a snap election in 2008
Knew it was only way Labour could hold power once economy crumbled
George Osborne said revelation ‘exposed cynicism’ of Balls and Miliband
Labour leader has not denied claim, dismissing it as ‘ancient history’
The claim appears in explosive new memoir of Martin Winter - who helped turn Miliband into an MP




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914839/Two-Eds-hid-truth-global-crash-Miliband-Balls-knew-UK-economy-fall-cliff-year-happened-kept-secret.html

is that so stan ..... i must say, you really do make an excellent poodle for the pedagogue

Dreams,

Anybody with a little bit of common sensed in 2006-2008 and earlier would have realised that the economy was over heating and being driven by USA and UK over borrowing.

The blame game by the torrid party is no longer working.

The Nasty party has been in office for over 4 and half years and failed the majority of the public of the UK.

Mind they have bent over and serving for those who donate to tory funds.

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Look at the Lansley reformation for the NHS.

Look at Gove's reforms of the Education Service. (Now showing signs of breaking at the seams.)

Look at the Welfare Services.

Look at the prison service.

Look at the police service.

Look at real take home pay.

And so on.

One of the most incompetent government's ever!

Look, look, look - Fred lives in cloud cuckoo land !

impressive performance by the previous incumbents too, not forgetting the fine legacy left by them to the nation ... a legacy with no money remaining in the coffers of course

PS.

Anybody bored to-night, suggest looking at Foyle's Law in ITV at 8pm.

Interesting series and empathic to the 1946-7 post war period in UK.

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EU "considering a ban on Islamophobia" after Paris attacks

After the Charlie Hebdo and related attacks, the European Union is being presented with proposals to ban Islamophobia, so as to stem a perceived backlash against Muslims. Eurocrats are sympathetic but do not believe they are practicable


http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5544/eu_considering_a_ban_on_islamophobia_after_paris_attacks


Diplomatic and NGO sources in Brussels say that the European Union is now considering proposals from Muslim groups to strengthen laws against "hate speech" following the fatal attacks in Paris at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine and a Jewish Supermarket.

The proposals are based on fears that the attacks by Islamists could provoke a backlash against Europe's growing Muslim community, leaders of which uniformly condemned the killings, while simultaneously protesting against denigration of Muhammed.

Mainstream Muslim leaders have close contacts with the European Union and its related institutions, as do the leaders of other faith groups.

The sources, consulted in the last two days, who insisted upon anonymity, said that senior EU officials were sympathetic to calls for libel and hate-speech laws to be strengthened, but were sceptical of getting support from member governments or from the European Parliament where Right-leaning parties increased their presence at last year's European elections.

One well-informed member of a non-governmental orgainsation in Brussels said:

"The conversation is going on. In fact, it's the only game in town after Paris. But you aren't going to get anyone to go on the record right now. Everyone's too scared, and I don't mean scared of the Islamists, I mean scared of being accused of being politically correct, even if they are. "

"The Jewish groups are terrrified, but let's face it, how many Jews are there in Europe against the number of Muslims? But, yes, they are considering a ban on Islamophobia".

Opinion polls show that the majority of European Union Muslims want Sharia law for their communities, but do not believe that that should extend to the non-Muslim majority. However, they do believe that insulting the Muslim Prophet should be against the law.

In 2003, the EU suppressed a report on anti-Semitism in Europe which concluded that attacks on Jews were mainly perpetrated by young Muslims.