goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 18 Jan 2015 18:08
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Napoleon,
Have a look at the note tory Maudling, on being kicked out of power, left for the incoming Labour Chancellor.
cynic
- 18 Jan 2015 18:34
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1964 is an awfully long time ago, but then fred lives in the past and likes to quote from what he likes to believe was uk socialism's golden era ..... anyway i print same below ....
note left by Tory Reginald Maudling to his Labour successor James Callaghan in 1964: "Good luck, old cock ... Sorry to leave it in such a mess."
at least it was somewhat apologetic which is more than can be said to the one left by the last bunch of labour incompetents - swiftly followed by some tory incompetence it should be admitted, though not so much so with regard to the economy
Haystack
- 18 Jan 2015 19:19
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http://www.iaindale.com/posts/2015/01/18/general-election-predictions-the-final-results-we-re-heading-for-a-three-party-coalition-or-a-second-election
This worth a read. It is a detailed prediction of the GE result. I don't agree with some of it, but it mostly makes good sense. It allows the possibility of a second GE in the autumn.
MaxK
- 18 Jan 2015 19:39
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It makes sense only if you ignore the protest vote, and the remainder vote along party lines.
I don't think it will be that simple.
doodlebug4
- 18 Jan 2015 20:22
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Simple would be if the party which polled the majority of votes, irrespective of the number of seats, won the GE. I think it is totally silly that a minority party, whether it is the Lib/Dems or the SNP or the Green Party, could be in a position to decide who is our next PM.
Fred1new
- 18 Jan 2015 20:26
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Haze again living in false hope.
Wonder who will be leading the splits in the tories Berlusconi Boris one pack and after her speech this weekend Cruella May leading the remnants.
MaxK
- 18 Jan 2015 20:32
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If they turfed out Cameroon and installed Boris tomorrow, they would win by a landslide.
Haystack
- 18 Jan 2015 20:36
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Cameron is still the most popular with Conservative MPs and with Conservative voters by a long way.
MaxK
- 18 Jan 2015 20:41
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Conservative MPs are an endangered species.
Conservative supporters (members) are voting with their feet.
Haystack
- 18 Jan 2015 20:48
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The main parties are all losing members. The same is true of the larger parties across Europe.
dreamcatcher
- 18 Jan 2015 20:49
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Come on this cannot be true, I trust this pair a 100%. :-)). Not going to be a good week for labour.
dreamcatcher
- 18 Jan 2015 20:52
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THE ABOVE WILL NO DOUBT HAVE DONE MAJOR DAMAGE TO THE LABOUR PARTY. IF I WAS VOTING FOR THEM, I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE NOW. CARRY ON JUST AS YOU ARE BOYS, :-))
Fred1new
- 18 Jan 2015 21:05
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Dreams.
You are in Cloud Cuckoo Land with DB4.
Many economists at that period were pointing to the problem.
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Osborne promised what on the Debt and Deficit.
What has he done.
How many food banks have been open in the last three years.
What are wages like.
How many false promises are Cameron and Osborne making at the moment.
Four years of misery for the weakest in society, gluttony for the the wealthy with their noses in the trough.
What an outstanding record!
doodlebug4
- 18 Jan 2015 21:07
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After weeks of dithering Brown only decided to abandon the idea of an election in 2007 when opinion polls turned against him. At the time it was stressed that the state of the economy was not a factor in when to call the election.
Mr Winter’s revelation casts doubt on this and reveals the politicking of the Labour leader and his shadow chancellor in the run-up to the general election.
The first public acknowledgement of a financial meltdown in the UK was made by the then Chancellor Alastair Darling in August 2008, who said Britain was facing the “worst economic crisis for 60 years”. He was roundly criticised by Brownites at the time.
But it is claimed that the threat faced to the UK economy was known at least a year before and Mr Miliband believed it was necessary to “either go now and risk losing, or wait and know we’re going to lose [the election]”.
In a further bizarre disclosure Mr Miliband was accused of mistakenly burning a hole in Mr Winter’s carpet, while he was staying with the former mayor, and then buying a prayer mat for his host to cover the damage.
Independent
MaxK
- 18 Jan 2015 21:19
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And the real villain skipped happily away to his nu found riches.
dreamcatcher
- 18 Jan 2015 21:28
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I hope the conservatives cause maximum damage next week to the labour party with this headline. How can you trust this pair of muppets ? Any hard working person in this country who reads those headlines will see red. That action tells any voter with any common sense they would risk the country and cannot be trusted.
Fred1new
- 18 Jan 2015 21:44
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Do you believe in fairy stories as well?
goldfinger
- 18 Jan 2015 21:47
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Errrrrrrrrrrrrrr it was the Bankers who caused the Crash, no one else.
It was World wide and even a pleb like me with a PHD in economics predicted it 2 years HERE ON THIS THREAD BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
It was no secret.
Why didnt the independant BoE do something???????. Thats why they were made independant.
Nobody broke free though because they would have lost more than anybody else.
Lets face it if you were up with events you knew it was going to happen just like when labour take on power and the market cycle turns down again and 4 million people are made unemployed over night.
And it will happen as Unions have no power anymore, people are on Zero hour contracts, Zombie self employed jobs, and at least 2 million not counted in unemployment figures who are on Mickey Mouse training schemes.
EDIT......make that 5 million overnight unemployed.
YOU WILL HAVE SEEN NOTHING LIKE IT BEFORE.
Watch out for the civil unrest.
Haystack
- 18 Jan 2015 21:48
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It is a bit rich when Labour MPs try and distance themselves from Blair and his decisions. There were 244 Labour MPs who voted for Iraq war including
Ed Miliband
Harriet Harman
Gordon Brown
Caroline Flint
Peter Gain
Margaret Hodge
Gerald Kaufman
David Miliband
Jack Straw
Keith Vaz
Hazel Blears
David Blunkett
Andy Burnham
Yvette Cooper
Alistair Darling
John Reid
Jacqui Smith
doodlebug4
- 18 Jan 2015 21:50
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Your Doctor will see you in 28 days if you make an appointment tomorrow gf.