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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 19 Jan 2015 12:12 - 55260 of 81564

so the nazis said of the jews

ExecLine - 19 Jan 2015 12:26 - 55261 of 81564



Full story of Ed Milliband first buying the bacon sandwich and then deciding on the addition of tomato sauce to it and then scoffing it down like wot good potential Jewish Prime Ministers do - particularly the ones who have stitched their own brother up. (Sorry, that should not be in the plural because, as far as we are aware, he is the only one who ever did that!):

HERE

So that's three massive errors:

1. Jewish guys shouldn't eat bacon sandwiches. The pig is an 'unclean animal' and to do so is famously recognised as being against Jewish teachings.
2. Jewish family members are normally morally above stitching up their own family members (although the Bible does tell us about a few of them).
3. Prime Ministers don't don't scoff their food down. They behave with decorum at all times - particularly when cameras are around.
4. Adding all that up, one has to ask one's self, "Can you trust this guy?" The answer is clearly, "Not really!"

Haystack - 19 Jan 2015 12:27 - 55262 of 81564

So the Nazis said of the disabled, gypsies, homosexuals etc. I don't see a connection between the TV program and a bunch of megalomaniac psychopaths.

What I am interested in, is that the Sunday Politics is seemingly reflecting a wider view that Miliband is not normal. That the program could take that stance is quite surprising irrespective of whether it is true or not.

Fred1new - 19 Jan 2015 12:28 - 55263 of 81564

Cynic,

What is your opinion?

--=-=-=-=

Is part of the outrage that Netanyahu is whipping up due to seeking a diversion from?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/11351242/International-Criminal-Court-opens-investigation-into-war-crimes-against-Palestinians.html

International Criminal Court opens investigation into war crimes against Palestinians

The move comes after Palestinians formally joined the ICC earlier this month, a move condemned by Israel and the US


The International Criminal Court's prosecutor on Friday opened a preliminary probe into possible war crimes committed against Palestinians, including during last year's Gaza war.

Fatou Bensouda said her office would conduct its "analysis in full independence and impartiality".

Her decision comes after Palestinians formally joined the ICC earlier this month allowing it to lodge war crimes and crimes against humanity complaints against Israel as of April.

At the same time, the Palestinians also recognised the ICC's jurisdiction retroactively, to cover the period during last summer's war in Gaza that killed nearly 2,200 Palestinians and 73 Israelis.

"A preliminary examination is not an investigation but a process of examining the information available in order to reach a fully informed determination on whether there is a reasonable basis to proceed with a (full) investigation," Ms Bensouda said.


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Perhaps Cynic will you answer the question.#


2000 Palestinians were supposed to be killed and 73 Israelis




Both Israel and the US have condemned the plan, with Washington calling it "counterproductive".

I wonder what is being "counter productive" against,

Fred1new - 19 Jan 2015 12:33 - 55264 of 81564

PS.

I have had Jewish friends who enjoyed Bacon sandwiches and ate pork sausages with smiles on their faces.

Quite happy for others to hold to the beliefs, but content with their own on pigs.

I would think a lot of food "taboos" have a base in self-protection. Ie in case of pork Tape worms.

2517GEORGE - 19 Jan 2015 12:37 - 55265 of 81564

Centrica the latest to reduce gas prices.
A few more quid added to food and fuel savings will help the consumer, with prices and wages going in the right direction the consumer may well decide to stick with the Tories and the improving economy, especially in view of the 2 Eds latest reported shenanigans.
2517

Haystack - 19 Jan 2015 12:37 - 55266 of 81564

Execline
Miliband's Jewishness is not relevant. He is an atheist and not a practising Jew. He is regularly attacked by Israel and prominent UK Jews for his support for Palestine. I went to school in Stamford Hill, which is one of the most Jewish areas in Europe. The majority of my Jewish friends eat bacon sandwiches as do my Muslim friends. I don't think you can attack him for not following Jewish dietary rules.

ExecLine - 19 Jan 2015 12:37 - 55267 of 81564

From: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11354117/Labours-energy-freeze-is-dead-and-Ed-has-nothing-else-to-offer.html

Labour's energy freeze is dead and Ed has nothing else to offer
After endless U-turns, the party is now going into the election without a flagship policy

Labour leaders have been forced to claim that their 'freeze' is actually a 'cap' in the wake of tumbling oil prices
By Boris Johnson6:10AM GMT 19 Jan 2015

I remember the time when it was absolutely clear how Labour was going to fight the election. They had a flagship policy, an idea that resonated across the country. Somehow or other, and in defiance of all known laws of economics, they were going to freeze the price of energy. Ed Miliband announced the idea in the autumn of 2013 – and immediately the party surged in the polls.

Yay, said the public: free money! Some of us pointed out that it is very difficult for politicians to intervene effectively in the price of commodities. The emperor Diocletian tried it – and gave up in humiliation after a few years. Not many have followed his example, and none successfully. Still, the punters believed it, and Labour remorselessly pushed that sole policy until it became their most famous proposal, their rallying cry, one of the few solid ideas in the general porridge of their anti-business agenda.

And then something unexpected happened: the oil price started to fall. Fracking was massively boosting production in America. The Saudis were turning on the taps – and keeping them on. Perhaps the Arabs were trying to undercut the frackers; perhaps they were trying to make life difficult for the Iranians. It didn’t matter. The cost of energy started to come down, and down – until suddenly there was the prospect of an actual cut for you and me.

The energy companies are now preparing a long-overdue reduction in their bills – and there is only one theoretical objection. What are they supposed to do if Labour gets in, and implement their “freeze”? What if the price “freeze” were to prevent the rapacious power companies from passing on further cuts to the consumer? In the last few weeks, it has seemed that Miliband was impaled on a ludicrous policy of insisting that energy prices should remain higher than the market demands. Now the Labour Party say that they didn’t mean to talk about a “freeze” at all; the idea was to have a “cap”.
Well, their propaganda has so far been exclusively about a freeze, and if there is to be a cap – then at what level? We don’t know; they can’t tell us. All we know is that the “freeze” policy has been junked; the flagship has been holed beneath the waterline. It was always a short-term policy, designed to drive a news agenda for a week or so. It was never part of a principled and rational agenda for government – and now it is dead.

No wonder that so many naturally bossy and Left-wing people are thinking of going for the Greens, rather than Labour. At least they have a world-view; at least they know what they think. For the last few years I have had the joy of engaging with the Greens in London, and I believe I understand their mindset pretty well. They don’t like capitalism, they don’t much like economic growth and they hate, hate, hate anything to do with the motor car. They especially hate and fear the advent of low-carbon vehicles, because they consider these to be an unfortunate diversion from their main purpose: to drive everyone out of private cars – with their horrid connotations of individual liberty and autonomy – and on to public transport.

On some points I agree with the Greens; on some I disagree strongly. But when I think of my friend Jenny Jones, now Baroness Jones, I see a doughty and often successful campaigner for a set of environmental or pseudo-environmental objectives. She was at all the mayoral debates in the run-up to the London election in 2012 and enlivened them. David Cameron is absolutely right in taking his stand on her behalf. Of course the Greens should be in the TV showdowns. They may be occasionally batty, but at least their case is gaining ground with the public, and at least it has some bravery and rigour about it. That is not the case with the hopeless hodge‑podge of Milibandery.

Just in the period since Christmas, the Labour Party seems to have executed no fewer than 21 U-turns – many of them junking their previous green policies. They were going to bring back a pro-bike quango called Cycling England; now they are not. They were going to ban food waste going to landfill; now they have given up. If the Greens are watermelons – Lefties disguised as environmentalists – then Miliband is a ripening tomato, moving conspicuously from green to red.

In fact, I am not sure how green Ed ever really was. His backers in the media claim that he was responsible for some kind of midnight breakthrough communiqué at the Copenhagen climate change conference in 2009.

Well, I was at Copenhagen, and I don’t remember any breakthrough at all – the whole thing was a fiasco – and I certainly don’t remember any intervention by Ed. And the reason I was there was because we in London were trying to promote a serious and sensible agenda for installing insulation, retrofitting homes, and so cutting fuel bills.
When we went to see the secretary of state at the Department of Energy and Climate Change (E Miliband) I was amazed by how little he seemed either to know or to care. He was much more interested in gossip than in a long-term programme for the country – and I fear the same is true today.

Yesterday’s paper contained a wonderful account of how he nearly died in a fire in Doncaster, during a long stay with the former mayor of that town. He took it into his head to move a convection heater off a pair of bricks and plonk it on the carpet. Both the carpet and the under-carpet ignited, and gave off such noxious vapours that Ed was sitting zonked in an armchair, in danger of being asphyxiated – until he was saved by his quick-thinking neighbour, who tipped him into the garden.

Miliband later made amends by buying a carpet to cover the burns, though the effect was slightly spoiled when his hosts realised that it was a Muslim prayer mat.
What’s that burning smell? It’s another giant hole appearing in Ed Miliband’s policies – and there isn’t a mat big enough to cover them.

cynic - 19 Jan 2015 12:46 - 55268 of 81564

55266 - i think it's something of a rationalisation to link netanyahu's "outrage" with being a diversionary tactic with regard to the war crimes court

however, to think that netanyahu's actions - and those of marie le pen and a good number of others - are just or even primarily altruistic would be naive in the extreme

on a slightly different note, i think israel's peristent and long-term treatment of the palestinians is despicable, and i have posted as much on a number of occasions

hilary - 19 Jan 2015 12:47 - 55269 of 81564

So, now we've established that Milibland is not normal (that bit's a no-brainer, really), does that mean he is (a) abnormal, (b) subnormal, or (c) both?

My money's on (c).

Fred1new - 19 Jan 2015 12:50 - 55270 of 81564

That may be the judgement of a psychopath!

Haystack - 19 Jan 2015 12:50 - 55271 of 81564

My view is that he is likely to be suffering from Aspergers. He certainly seems to have a fair number of the symptoms. This a serious comment.

dreamcatcher - 19 Jan 2015 12:50 - 55272 of 81564

Nothing wrong with the man in my opinion, he just lost a filling that's all. :-))
Mind you the look on one or two faces in this years I'm a celeb get me out here did not look much worse when they were digesting kangaroo bollo---- etc. lol


doodlebug4 - 19 Jan 2015 12:51 - 55273 of 81564

Is subnormal a proper word hilary?! He's certainly very strange.:-) What category would you put Balls in?

hilary - 19 Jan 2015 12:55 - 55274 of 81564

The fcuking fat retard category, Doods.

doodlebug4 - 19 Jan 2015 12:57 - 55275 of 81564

LOL !

hilary - 19 Jan 2015 12:57 - 55276 of 81564

Haystack,

Is it the right time of year for Aspergers?

dreamcatcher - 19 Jan 2015 12:57 - 55277 of 81564

He is another great man. Lets put him up for knighthood - sir Balls :-))

Shortie - 19 Jan 2015 13:26 - 55278 of 81564

Here's the differences between the main parties summed up with a bacon sandwich!!

Milibland, had to add sauce to spice it up, grabs with both hands and chops down hard. He's showing us he's a real working man if his expressions don't quite follow suit.

Cameron, a Tory would never have been seen as hands on and would remain rigid and have used a knife and fork to eat it.

Nigel Farage, sod the bacon it might not be British, a pie and pint man after his white van party followers...

The Ginger one, who cares!!

doodlebug4 - 19 Jan 2015 13:37 - 55279 of 81564

The Ginger one would have it demolished in two bites and in two seconds!
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