goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 19 Jan 2015 14:24
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what a singularly stupid comment from you fred, but then i expect nothing else let alone better
from what you write, i suspect that you think i am also part of your phantasmagorical "jewish lobby", though nothing could be further from the truth ..... but never let facts get in the way of a good story
doodlebug4
- 19 Jan 2015 14:40
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James Blunt, the singer, has issued a robust response to an MP who criticised his privileged background, saying his "populist, envy-based, vote-hunting" ideas were making the country worse.
Blunt told Chris Bryant, the shadow culture secretary, he was teaching the "politics of jealousy", after the MP spoke out to condemn a lack of diversity in the arts.
Mr Bryant told the Guardian one of his priorities if he became a minister would be to encourage fairer funding, encouraging organisations to hire from a wider variety of backgrounds rather than just "arts graduates from Cambridge".
"I am delighted that Eddie Redmayne won [a Golden Globe for best actor], but we can't just have a culture dominated by Eddie Redmayne and James Blunt and their ilk," he said.
Blunt, who was educated at Harrow, served in the Army and is known for his no-nonsense response to critics on Twitter, has now issued a public reply to the MP, saying he had to work as hard as anyone in the music industry to combat accusations he was "too posh".
His letter in full:
Dear Chris Bryant MP,
You classist gimp. I happened to go to a boarding school. No one helped me at boarding school to get into the music business. I bought my first guitar with money I saved from holiday jobs (sandwich packing!). I was taught the only four chords I know by a friend. No one at school had ANY knowledge or contacts in the music business, and I was expected to become a soldier or a lawyer or perhaps a stockbroker. So alien was it, that people laughed at the idea of me going into the music business, and certainly no one was of any use.
In the army, again, people thought it was a mad idea. None of them knew anyone in the business either.
And when I left the army, going against everyone’s advice, EVERYONE I met in the British music industry told me there was no way it would work for me because I was too posh. One record company even asked if I could speak in a different accent. (I told them I could try Russian).
Every step of the way, my background has been AGAINST me succeeding in the music business. And when I have managed to break through, I was STILL scoffed at for being too posh for the industry.
And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my s--t songs, and my plummy accent.
I got signed in America, where they don’t give a stuff about, or even understand what you mean by me and “my ilk”, you prejudiced wazzock, and I worked my arse off. What you teach is the politics of jealousy. Rather than celebrating success and figuring out how we can all exploit it further as the Americans do, you instead talk about how we can hobble that success and “level the playing field”. Perhaps what you’ve failed to realise is that the only head-start my school gave me in the music business, where the VAST majority of people are NOT from boarding school, is to tell me that I should aim high. Perhaps it protected me from your kind of narrow-minded, self-defeating, lead-us-to-a-dead-end, remove-the-‘G’-from-‘GB’ thinking, which is to look at others’ success and say, “it’s not fair.”
Up yours,
James Cucking Funt
The Telegraph
Fred1new
- 19 Jan 2015 14:53
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Napoleon,
Don't make yourself look a bigger fool than you already are.
I have read your opinions on the Israeli's government actions against the "Palestinians" over a number of years and notice you have disdain for many of them.
I expected your response.
Whether you are a member of the Jewish lobby or not is irrelevant to me, but I suspect you would be to tight to be.
But, to my mind and that of others, there is a "Jewish" lobby, which jumps on any attempt of critics of "The Jewish State" and attempts to deprecate their opinion on anything contradicting their own views.
That does not mean that there are many Jews and those of Jewish origin who are not critical many of the Israeli governments pronouncements and actions.
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Fred1new
- 19 Jan 2015 14:55
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Who is James Blunt?
cynic
- 19 Jan 2015 14:58
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attempts to deprecate their opinion on anything contradicting their own views.
sounds just like zeebedee
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just shows how totally out of touch you are
don't suppose you've heard of (m)any singers since the age of doris day
doodlebug4
- 19 Jan 2015 15:00
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He's a musician Fred, not in Bing Crosby's or Frank Sinatra's era so I don't expect you will have heard of him. Actually I'm not a great fan of his music, but I agree with his sentiments!
dreamcatcher
- 19 Jan 2015 15:02
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Fred1new - 19 Jan 2015 14:55 - 55294 of 55295
Who is James Blunt?
No doubt you listen to 1920 - 30's music , he is a bit more modern. :-)) You will have to update your gramophone and buy a CD player or even download off the internet.
dreamcatcher
- 19 Jan 2015 15:02
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snap doodlebug4. lol
Fred1new
- 19 Jan 2015 15:04
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He can't be Cynic!
cynic
- 19 Jan 2015 15:07
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nothing beats the nostalgic crackle from a vinyl 78, or even from the speaker of one of those new-fangled echo valve wirelesses
Shortie
- 19 Jan 2015 15:12
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Who's James Blunt, Fred,.... I was thinking who the fook is Chris Bryant!!
cynic
- 19 Jan 2015 15:17
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surely chris bryant is one of the rising young turks of the labour party .... that's prob why no one has ever heard of him
dreamcatcher
- 19 Jan 2015 15:19
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He was born in Cardiff.
Fred1new
- 19 Jan 2015 15:22
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Then he is not a blunt instrument!
Chris Carson
- 19 Jan 2015 15:38
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No just another Welsh Tool!
VICTIM
- 19 Jan 2015 15:43
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Gordon Bennett this is better than the Archers this , wouldn't be surprised if it's been going the same length of time.
goldfinger
- 19 Jan 2015 15:43
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Cyners, quick SGP Super Group breaking out.
And boy when this one goes, it goes like split shit.
doodlebug4
- 19 Jan 2015 15:49
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Labour cracking under the pressure already - temper tantrum from the shadow business secretary on Sky news:
Chuka Umunna, Labour’sshadow business secretary, has stormed out of a live television interview after being challenged over his failure to read a letter sent by the Government to Muslim leaders in Britain.
Mr Umunna clashed with Dermot Murnaghan, a Sky News presenter, after claiming he was being subjected to “ridiculous” questions about Eric Pickles’ letter to 1,100 imams and Islamic leaders saying they must to more to root out "men of hate" who preach extremism.
The shadow business secretary admitted he had not read the letter and said he would not go “off-piste” and discuss its content when asked if he believed the Government was “patronising” Muslims.
Mr Umunna, who was not in the same studio as his interviewer, said it was not “terribly fair” to ask him about the letter because he had been asked to come on the programme to discuss David Cameron’s latest speech on the economy.
After Mr Murnaghan accused him of refusing to speak “until you get the party line right”, Mr Umunna stood up and walked out of the studio.
After Mr Umunna was unable to answer a question about the letter, disclosed in The Daily Telegraph, Mr Murnaghan said: "Well what are you doing in politics? Come on, everyone's talking about it. It's the middle of the afternoon and you still haven't read this?"
Asked by Mr Murnaghan whether he thought the letter to Muslim leaders was “patronising”, Mr Umunna said: “I’m not sure I would use the word patronising for the simple reason that I haven’t actually read the letter.
“You and I can have this debate if you want but the wider and more bigger issue for us is how do we ensure that young Muslim people…”
Mr Murnaghan then interrupted the shadow business secretary and said: “Do you want to come back on in half-an-hour’s time? It doesn’t take long to read the letter and then we’ll have this discussion.”
Mr Umunna replied: “I think you’re being a bit ridiculous right now and your viewers can form their own views. I was asked to come and speak about David Cameron’s speech on the economy and what was happening around the labour market.
“Nobody told me that I was going to be coming on this programme and asked to agree whether I though the Government was patronising Muslim people and Muslim leaders.
“I’m not just going to speak off-piste without actually having read a letter. I don’t think you’re being terribly fair. Your viewers can make their own decision.”
Mr Murnaghan then said: “So you’re not going to speak until you get the party line right – ok, well we’ll have to end it there. Shadow business secretary, thank you very much indeed.”
Fred1new
- 19 Jan 2015 16:09
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DB4,
If P would put Murnaghan P55308 is correct I would place him and you at the same level.
If I was given such a "letter" rather than shoot my mouth off like Cameron and his ilk tend to do, I would suggest it needed time to read and consider.
If the person asking me did not find the response to his liking and continued in the same vein I would like Umunna have terminated the interview.
Considering the number of U-Turns this pack of tory hounds have performed in 4+years I think they would have been wiser to keep their "wishes" to themselves and mouths shut more often.
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I think Cameron's utterings earlier to-day were ill considered and stupid.
goldfinger
- 19 Jan 2015 16:10
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Is doodlebug still around. I can see his name. (still filtered)
Sources said he was bankrupted after FLYBE went tits up.
Ohhh what a lovely feeling it was that morning and the £168 grand I banked made it even better.
edit....... ohhhhhh sorry just checked records, it was £268 grand I banked.
21% fall.