Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

fred - time to change the record

It will never happen cynic , he will sit in his miserable world forever .
If Britain made a success of Brexit he could never see it ,sad.

there are a huge number of twists and turns still to come in the brexit negotiations, and it certainly won't be one-way traffic

how well the uk economy performs after the event remains to be seen, and as always, much will depend on the rest of the world

will uk be better or worse off having pulled the plug?
no one will ever know, other than for sure uk will not be part of a federal europe - and a damn good job too!

Visit Paris – city of culture, beauty and enlightenment

By David Craig, on October 5th, 2016


Given that Paris has been so much in the news following the theft of jewellery from the world’s most talented (are you sure? ed) and famous (famous for what? ed) woman – see yesterday’s blog for more information and pictures – I thought I’d dedicate today’s blog to a brief eulogy of one of the world’s most beautiful cities.

I used to love going to Paris. When I was an awful lot younger, if you wanted to get off with a girl, you just invited her to Paris for a weekend. A huge amount of food, drink and sex were guaranteed.

Later, there was nothing like a trip to Paris to spice up a longer-term relationship.

But Paris has changed.



More:http://www.snouts-in-the-trough.com/archives/17033

Of course we will know , could we carry on taking 350 thousand immigrants per year ? the answer is obviously no plain and simple .
Now coming out of Europe ,i am not one of those saying "see nothing happened after the vote" the reality will be seen in the first years after we exit .
My guess is that we are going to be fine ,i also strongly believe that the Union is on shaky legs and could end up being dissolved one day.

Watched those videos max ,it's a crying shame .

Not a single mention...




Is this mobile home the answer to middle England’s housing crisis?


Faced with huge bed and breakfast bills to house homeless families, Tory councils are seeking radical alternatives


Patrick Butler

Wednesday 5 October 2016 07.30 BST



One of 40 ‘modular’ units in Chelmsford, Essex, which the council plans to use for its homeless population. Photograph: Teri Pengilley for the Guardian



The announcement at this week’s Tory party conference by the communities secretary Sajid Javid of a £5bn boost to housebuilding can be seen in part as a belated recognition of the explosion of housing insecurity in Tory heartlands – a crisis the prime minister has hinted at with her promise to help those families on low to middle incomes who are “just managing” to get by.

However, if proof were needed that the problem of homelessness is no longer reserved for its metropolitan heartlands but has rippled out into the commuter cities and market towns of middle England, it is the housing crisis that exploded this summer in Peterborough, landing the city’s Tory-controlled council with a potential £1m bill for putting up homeless families in local Travelodge hotels.



More: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/05/mobile-home-england-housing-crisis-bandb-tory-councils-homeless

Dumbo.

With your bright ideas and wisdom.

Your party needs you.

Why don't you stand for its leadership?

Farage seems to have given up on it.

You mean like the millions of voters who have given up on Labour ?

Farage has retired , Wolfe may now get his chance.

Fred your not even worth a comment any more ,you don't know what anyone stands for as you are too blinkered and i should add thick with it, have a better day .

The video of the immigrants rioting in Paris, and other european locations
can either, be left to carry on and so giving the cities/towns/villages over
to the invaders, or the locals/indigenous peoples only alternative is to take
up arms and for the authorities(police) to start shooting those alien to a
countries culture and beliefs.

Obviously the echr's would need changing or suspending while order is restored
otherwise the streets and cities will be lost, and its strange that the media do
not have these riots and shootings of police on their main news broadcast!!

Bring the jackboots back.

That will sort out all the problems.

Is that what Fallon is preparing for?

Well it just depends on your outlook and if you're willing to be taken over by
uncivilised rabble immigrants that are alien to european culture that has
intentions to wreck western societies?..

Have another drink Fred .

Dumbo's future?

Because James did not enact the leadership officially, Farage is still currently the leader of UKIP.

May's Conference live about 11:30

AHHHHHHHHHH!

Matron calls.

Fred if there's no drink handy take your medication .