goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 21 Jan 2015 16:08
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LOL LOL LOL LOL Hays, your wearing blinkers again, keep off the crack.
Andrew Neal reveled some excelent figures on the the true state of employment this lunchtime.
4.5 million more unemployed now than when Labour were in government, and have you noticed how the Tories always use the number of people in work.........what they dont tell you is that the number of people living in this country as risen way ahead of the relevant % increase in employment.
Fred1new
- 21 Jan 2015 16:38
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Actual hours worked is the first question?
Overall production figure the second?
Hourly pay rates for manual and unskilled work would be the third?
Total Hours worked in manual or unskilled work?
Total benefit payments would be the fourth?
goldfinger
- 21 Jan 2015 16:44
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Fred just out SKY NEWS...........THATCHER actualy saw the file on the peados responsible for the childrens home scandal and did nothing about it. It still exists and will be handed over to the enquiry.
She apparently told one of her cabinet to calm down.
cynic
- 21 Jan 2015 16:46
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i was interested to watch a snippet on tv yesterday when a driver from hermes was interviewed and also a senior manager from the company
hermes pay 45/50p per drop and this guy was working all hours to make £80/100 pd gross
hermes rationalised that being self-employed gave their drivers lots of flexibility - eg could work hours to suit (believe that and you'll believe anything!) - and gave it some fancy tarted-up name
of course the real truth, as we all know, is that these companies and others like them, force self-employment to avoid all the admin and costs and liability for benefits that would accrue were these people on their books
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 16:46
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Key Points for September to November 2014
There were 9.09 million people aged from 16 to 64 who were out of work and not seeking or available to work (known as economically inactive). This was 66,000 more than for June to August 2014 and 41,000 more than for a year earlier.
There were 1.91 million unemployed people. This was 58,000 fewer than for June to August 2014, the smallest quarterly fall since July to September 2013. Comparing September to November 2014 with a year earlier, there were 418,000 fewer unemployed people.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/lms/labour-market-statistics/january-2015/statistical-bulletin.html
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 16:57
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Fred1new
- 21 Jan 2015 17:02
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Shortie,
Thanks for the link.
My daughter worked at ONS for a number of years.
A very useful site.
cynic
- 21 Jan 2015 17:03
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i've heard of peashoots and pedalos and pedicures and even paediatricians
Haystack
- 21 Jan 2015 17:07
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The number of people out of work in the UK fell by 58,000 to 1.91 million, its lowest level for more than six years, in the three months to November, official figures indicate.
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 17:11
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I just posted a link to the official figures on the official website, written by the official officials that write these figures!!
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 17:13
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Haystack
- 21 Jan 2015 17:20
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And the official figures are good news for the Conservatives.
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 17:23
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These figures are great for the Conservatives, it shows there leadership for exactly what it is.!
goldfinger
- 21 Jan 2015 17:28
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There were 9.09 million people aged from 16 to 64 who were out of work and not seeking or available to work (known as economically inactive). This was 66,000 more than for June to August 2014 and 41,000 more than for a year earlier.
I presume this includes the apprentices and training progs that Andrew Neal was talking about this lunch time.
goldfinger
- 21 Jan 2015 17:30
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How on earth can you claim to have anywhere near FULL EMPLOYMENT with that figure.
9 million, for christ sake.
Haystack
- 21 Jan 2015 17:33
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Social media is irrelevant to the GE. Twitter is just an echo chamber, not a voter battleground. Anyone following politics closely on there has already pretty much made up their mind how they are going to vote. Whilst it might be good for Labour morale, it’s not going to help them in the long run.
There are 45.5 million voters in the UK, yet only 15 million people on Twitter. Only a fraction of those active users actually follow politics, so to pin your hopes on swinging an election by targeting this already partisan demographic is at best naive.
And it goes badly wrong. Alex Salmond was drafting his victory speech at 10 p.m. on Referendum Day because he was relying on social media sentiment analysis over reality based numbers. Euan McColm reports in the Scotsman:
“But, still, Salmond believed he had won. This was because of his secret Canadians. At huge expense, and amid considerable secrecy, the former SNP leader had brought in polling experts from across the Atlantic. With their new methodology, they’d be able to give him the most detailed predictions yet seen in political analysis. Or something like that.
The reason I mention these secret Canadians, apart from the fact that their existence remains a fascinating, if little known, aspect of the referendum campaign, is that unlike most traditional operators in their field, they placed great store on the use of social media among voters. By monitoring interactions on Facebook and Twitter, a fuller picture would be painted.
In the end, the fuller picture turned out to be a fake, but the fact that Salmond was willing to invest so heavily in his secret Canadians shows us how seriously the SNP – and, naturally, all other political parties – take social media as a campaigning tool.”
goldfinger
- 21 Jan 2015 17:36
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Hays who says anybody as been taking note of twitter other than yourself.
We the left have been using polling companies.
Whats your point ?????
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 17:36
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I think you'll find that apprentices and those in training programmes that are paid are classed as being economically active.
The proportion of people aged from 16 to 64 who were economically inactive (the inactivity rate) was 22.4%, slightly higher than for June to August 2014 (22.2%) and for a year earlier (22.3%).
Makes me laugh, so to conclude, unemployment has fallen due to the workforce becoming economically inactive!!!
Shortie
- 21 Jan 2015 17:44
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Haystack
- 21 Jan 2015 17:45
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gf
You are always banging on about Twitter this and Twitter that and posting lefty comments you have found there. You had a marathon bout of posting hash tags that were trending. The truth is that only the activists care.