Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

And your guys knew nothing about it...yeah right, I believe it.

For what its worth I AGREE WITH HAYS for once.

Posters forgetting the first invasion of Kuwait and all those murdered in cold blood plus all the oil fields set alight.

The man had an agenda, he had to be taken out.

Nuclear in his hands would have been a catastrophe.

People have short memories.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I have no idea who knew about it . it wouldn't surprise me if it was just Blair plus a few. Otherwise it would have leaked out before. There are security implications, so only a few would have known.

I think for once you are being fair Hays. I agree and its not just because its a labour thing.

ANY PM of this country would have been drawn in with BUSH and thats a fact.

Its ok being on the outside, you have to take into account WHAT THEY HAD THERE IN FRONT OF THEM AT THAT TIME.

Nobody wants war, yes it may have beeen a massive mistake and a terrible error of judgement but I still dont think they lied at the time OPERATIONS STARTED.

And like YOU say post war plans were poor , shite in fact.

That was the crime of the day, not the war.

Haze,

The letter is in a similar vein to Cameron kowtowing up the red carpet to Saudi leaders who are responsible for whip lashing, stoning to death, beheading and financing "terrorists" in and outside Saudi Arabia.

If you wish to smear, start closer at home?

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Amnesty International: 'West deeply hypocritical over Saudi'

23 January 2015 Last updated at 19:04 GMT

The funeral of King Abdullah is taking place in Saudi Arabia after his death overnight at the age of 90.

His 79-year-old half-brother, Salman, has been confirmed as his successor.
The state of human rights and women's rights and the turbulent state of the region make the king's death and the succession particularly sensitive.
Salil Shetty, Amnesty International's secretary general, said "Saudi has got away with much more than any other state" in term of human rights abuses.
He said that the West was hypocritical to support such a state.
Read more

Saudi Arabia's new King Salman promises continuity




You could ask Lynton Crosby for a job, you know the expression "Birds of a feather flock together".

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GF,

The Iraq war was unnecessary ignore International advice from Hans Blix and his team, showed poor judgement by Blair. Who knows why Bush's and the Neo-cons in America wanted to do it. (Settling old scores and oil comes to mind.)

Could Blair have said NO.

Yes Wilson said know to Vietnam and he was right to.

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Much of the M.E. problem to-day could be put down to the "intervention", as well as not resolving the Palestinian Israeli PROBLEM in a satisfactory manner.

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A reformed and stronger United Nations is required as the USA "police force" withdraws from the scenes of "conflict".

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Mind you could send Captain Marvel Cameron with George at the wheel in a gun boat to resolves any problems. The enemy might laugh themselves to death!

A Yougov poll has found that 3 out of 4 voters don't know anything about Green party policies. I expect the figure is higher than that for UKIP. And that includes the UKIPers and their supporters.

The prospect of a Labour / SNP coalition will be very unappealing to the British public. That could weigh heavy on people's minds at the GE. I am sure that, as the GE approaches, that scenario will be brought to the public's attention.

What happened to jocks not voting on English affairs?

It is only a convention that they do not vote. They can come to Westminster whenever they want and vote.

Wee-Eck's daughter is unlikely to side with the tories, so Millibandus could form the next gov with her support...worst of all worlds.

What happened to non Bold type then?

Stan,

Have they stopped shouting to you.

Just found something interesting about fonts.

8-)

Max,

You are beginning to catch up.

Haze is beginning to live in bygone days.

Gets hazier by the day!

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Fred2old, you don't need to repeat everything.! If you press the "post message" thingy then strangely enough it will post your message.:-)

I am lucky I can't remember what or when I have posted.

But strangely know that I understood if I did.

However, for the slower in the class it is necessary to give them a chance by repeating the information a few times.

By Christopher Hope and Simon Johnson
2:00PM GMT 24 Jan 2015
UKIP's Nigel Farage and the SNP's Nicola Sturgeon head for Andrew Marr's sofa. Get the popcorn.

It is set to be an uncomfortable sight on Sunday morning when Nigel Farage and Nicola Sturgeon – two of Britain’s most strident nationalist politicians – share the sofa after their expected interviews on the BBC’s flagship Andrew Marr Show.

Both Mr Farage, the veteran leader of UK Independence Party which has its main support base in England, and Miss Sturgeon, who recently became leader of the Scottish National Party, bring with them reputations for being outspoken.

Below we examine their five most outrageous statements. If you can think of any more, add them at the end in the comment section.

Nigel Farage, Ukip leader

1) “I am a boozer, but not an alcoholic” (January 2015)

He said: “I am very lucky – I am a drinker, often quite a steady one. I am a boozer, but I am not an alcoholic. And that is the point. People say ‘oh my God how are you going to manage’. Do you know what? Quite easily actually. It is the working hours that kill me – not the boozing.”


2) Enoch Powell was not a racist (2008)

“I would never say that Powell was racist in any way at all. Had we listened to him, we would have much better race relations now than we have got.”

3) Breast-feeding mothers should ‘sit in the corner’ (Dec 2014)

"I’m not particularly bothered about it, but I know a lot of people do feel very uncomfortable, and look – this is just a matter of common sense, isn’t it? I think that given that some people feel very embarrassed by it, it isn’t too difficult to breastfeed a baby in a way that’s not openly ostentatious. Frankly, that’s up to Claridge’s, and I very much take the view that if you're running an establishment you should have rules.” [Asked if the should go to the ladies toilets to breastfeed, Mr Farage said: “Or perhaps sit in the corner, or whatever it might be – that's up to Claridge’s. It’s not an issue that I get terribly hung up about, but I know particularly people of the older generation feel awkward and embarrassed by it.”

4) Feeling awkward among foreigners on the train (Feb 2014)

“Do I think parts of Britain are a foreign land? I got the train the other night, it was rush hour, from Charing Cross. It was a stopper going out and we stopped at London Bridge, New Cross, Hither Green, it was not til we got past Grove Park that I could hear English being audibly spoken in the carriage. Does that make me feel slightly awkward? Yes it does. I wonder what is really going on. I am saying that and I am sure that is a view that will be reflected by three quarters of the population, perhaps even more.”

5) EU President Herman van Rompuy has “the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk” (Feb 2010)

“I don't want to be rude. But you know, really, you have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk. The question that I want to ask and that we are all going to ask is: who are you? I had never heard of you; nobody in Europe had ever heard of you. I would like to ask you, Mr President: who voted for you? And what mechanism - I know democracy is not popular with you lot - what mechanism do the peoples of Europe have to remove you? Is this European democracy? Sir, you have no legitimacy in this job at all, and I can say with confidence that I can speak on behalf of the majority of the British people in saying: we do not know you, we do not want you, and the sooner you are put out to grass, the better."

Nicola Sturgeon, SNP leader

1) 1) Scotland on the cusp of a second oil boom (August 2014)

Speaking in Lerwick: “Shetland is on the cusp of a second oil boom. Anyone who comes here can't miss the hundreds of workers coming on and off the islands and the impact all of this activity has on small island communities.”

2) SNPs will vote on policies affecting the English NHS (January 2015)

“On health, for example, we are signalling that we would be prepared to vote on matters of English health because that has a direct impact potential on Scotland's budget.”

3) The pound belongs to an ‘independent Scotland’ (April 2013)

"An independent Scotland will keep the pound because it is in everyone's best interests, and to try and suggest otherwise simply flies in the face of the facts. “For a start, the pound is every bit as much Scotland's currency as it is that of England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and as such, it is simple common sense that we should continue to use it as an independent country.”

4) An independent Scotland would get ‘automatic entry’ to the European Union

“It is the very clear view of the SNP and of the Government that Scotland would automatically be a member of the European Union upon independence. There is very clear legal opinion that backs up that position. I don't think the legal position, therefore, is in any doubt.”

5) David Cameron ‘politicised’ the Olympics (Feb 2014)

“I can absolutely guarantee that neither myself nor Mr Salmond will politicise the Commonwealth Games in the way that David Cameron is politicising the Olympics."

UKIP suspect infects the "Con" party: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30967633