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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 07 Oct 2016 09:58 - 5585 of 12628

Of course we gave to pay. We are still members. Nothing has changed and won't for a long while

jimmy b - 07 Oct 2016 10:11 - 5586 of 12628

Two years (just over) ..

hlyeo98 - 07 Oct 2016 15:40 - 5587 of 12628

In addition to paying £91 billion, the pound is crashing like a stone.
Sports Direct is affected badly by the pound.

cynic - 07 Oct 2016 16:04 - 5588 of 12628

so is the likes of NXT on which i am glad to say i bit the bullet a couple of days back
have yet to decide what to do with those spare funds

GNK has also been clobbered, merely on the back of a dull note from Singers

grannyboy - 07 Oct 2016 16:05 - 5589 of 12628

At least the BOE has the option of raising interest rates to stop any further falls
in the pound, that's if the useless Carney had the inclination, and every time that
the inflation rate is below 2% the BOE has to write a letter to the chancellor
explaining why, so there is room for a rise but it would raise a few mortgage
payments which could put a few households into a tiz..

cynic - 07 Oct 2016 16:27 - 5590 of 12628

no point in raising interest rates to stem a fall in ROE
it has never worked in the past so why should it now .... better to let the market find its own level

as far as investment is concerned, it's better to look at quality $ earners, though you should have done that 2/3/4 months ago
my own choices have been AMZN, GOOG, IMB and BATS .... i also hold RDSB

grannyboy - 08 Oct 2016 11:39 - 5592 of 12628

Yes the Islington champagne socialist are really desperate now that they
fear they will never regain anywhere near power, and are having to drag
back Bliar and his human rights lawyer wife to save the Labour party, but
what are they intending to do before the next GE, split the party? because
they can't kick Corbyn out, he's just been voted back with a huge mandate.

Dil - 08 Oct 2016 12:00 - 5593 of 12628

What's the criteria for calling another leadership vote ?

Let's be fair , none of the credible candidates put their names forward for the last one. Labour are going to get battered in any future local or national elections with the current bunch of clowns in charge.

grannyboy - 08 Oct 2016 12:05 - 5594 of 12628

The former prime minister said the Tories had created a "one party state",
NO, it been the total ineptitude of the Labour party and didn't need any help
from the Tories in creating a one party state..

But IF UKIP can get their fricking act together then the field is open for them
to be the main opposition, and so send the Labour party into oblivion...

Personnaly i'm pretty chuffed at the state of the Labour party, over the past
twenty five years they have betrayed the British working class for which they
no longer represent...

grannyboy - 08 Oct 2016 12:11 - 5595 of 12628

Dil, I doubt very much that there is a criteria for calling another leadership
election, they've already shown what a bunch of no-hopers they are, and if
there was any credible candidate they never put their head above the parapet
in the just completed contest....

Chris Carson - 08 Oct 2016 14:52 - 5596 of 12628

Andy Burnham was the only credible candidate amongst that shower. And even he is a blue (Evertonian.....LOL!!!)

Fred1new - 08 Oct 2016 16:20 - 5597 of 12628

They can wait for the fallout of Brexit.

I would think the next G/election would be a good one to lose.

cynic - 08 Oct 2016 16:35 - 5598 of 12628

labour should have no problem at all in doing that

however, for us non-socialist workers, it is the one after that that could prove scary if mccluskey's protege or another acolyte is still at the helm of the labour party

Fred1new - 08 Oct 2016 20:08 - 5599 of 12628

I always preferred the slow game.

cynic - 08 Oct 2016 21:04 - 5600 of 12628

well fred, not wishing you ill, but i hope you (and me) are long dead before we see the likes of mccluskey as pm

Haystack - 08 Oct 2016 21:43 - 5601 of 12628

A good candidate would be Hilary Benn. I think he is keeping out of it until he feels he could win.

grannyboy - 10 Oct 2016 12:45 - 5602 of 12628

The pressure is building from the moaning 'remainer's' to have another
referendum on article50, well i think it's article50 they want another
referendum on, or is it the final negptiations...Or is it...

Tell the frickers to do one T.May, otherwise it will start looking like there is
going to be a...STITCH UP!!!!

cynic - 10 Oct 2016 12:51 - 5603 of 12628

TM does not need to do anything ..... she can (and i am sure she will) just carry on with Plan A and tell us what has or has not been achieved in the fullness of time

it's not impossible that there'll be some kind of ambush in parliament to derail the ratification of Article 50, but i think that would just precipitate an early GE, which i'm sure the labour party absolutely does not want

grannyboy - 10 Oct 2016 13:06 - 5604 of 12628

The Blairite Labour party would like an early GE, because even they arn't that
stupid to think that Corbyn and his cronies will win any election.

So the sooner there is an election the more it would suit those who want to
get rid of Corbyn.

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