Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

You are just attempting to stir it up about Leon Brittan because he was a Conservative, if he was Labour you wouldn't be bothering to mention it. It is disgraceful the way he has been hounded with various allegations.

That Labour MP Tom Watson is an utter creep.

there was certainly a very interesting and long article in ST about LB
conclusion was that he was being badly and most unfairly smeared

You are just saying that because..........blah blah...........if he was "Con" servative you wouldn't be bothering to mention it. It is disgraceful the way he has been hounded with various allegations.

What happened to the - innocent until proven guilty - ideology?

Oh for christ sake Alf stop quoting Murdoch propaganda rags like the ST, The paper used to be a very well respected broadsheet for many years until Murdoch got hold of it but that ceased years ago.

You can't actually quote the ST in full online anyway unless you pay for the priviledge !

stan - perhaps you'ld like to pop round to your library and read the article for yourself, for i'm sure they'll have a copy ... you'll then be able to give a balanced view

Murdoch is a very clever businessman, but the lefties don't like that sort of thing

55862 continued ...... go to http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1511215.ece
where you can read the opening paras for free, though there was a great deal more than that

Don't be soppy Alf it's a Murdoch propaganda rag much like the rest of his titles.

Murdoch is nothing more then a right wing propagandist among other things.

New evidence ‘clears’ Brittan over MP’s paedophile dossier

False assertions of a cover-up in Westminster blighted the former home secretary’s last months, writes James Gillespie

EVIDENCE has emerged that Leon Brittan, the former home secretary, who died of cancer last week, was unjustly accused of covering up child sex-abuse allegations.

Geoffrey Dickens, the MP who submitted the allegations to Brittan, praised him for “splendid support” and thanked the Home Office for its work in combating paedophilia, the evidence shows.

Brittan’s final months were overshadowed by the claims of some MPs and campaigners that Dickens handed in a “dossier” of high-ranking Westminster figures who were involved in child sex abuse while Brittan was home secretary and that the documents were “lost” as part of a cover-up.

An examination of a report by Peter Wanless, chief executive of the NSPCC, into the Home Office’s handling of the matter, as well as two internal inquiries conducted by an HMRC investigator and Dickens's speeches in the Commons, paints a different picture of what happened .......

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read the article in full and then you can comment from knowledge

It's a bent publication like most of the others that Murdoch owns.

Roussos snuffs it... and Beverley is distrught about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvx6CUOHo9Q

stop blithering stan :-)

Haze, I could imagine you being a blood brother of Murdoch's, especially on values.

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I haven't a clue whether Brittan was culpable of any crime relating to the lost dossier, although from another favourite paper of the neo-cons:

Leon Brittan is quizzed over teen rape claim: Ex-Home Secretary accused of attacking student in his flat
Former Home Secretary questioned by police over claims he raped student
Assault alleged to have taken place at Brittan's central London flat in 1967
Brittan - who would have been in his late 20s - said to strongly deny claim


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681909/Leon-Brittan-quizzed-teen-rape-claim-Ex-Home-Secretary-accused-attacking-student-flat.html#ixzz3Px3rMSCm
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My suspicions suggest to me that Maggie may have suppressed the dossier and that investigations were "prevented".

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Whether there were crimes committed,or not, the case, as it has been brought into the light, should be investigated, whether Brittan was a Conservative, or deceased.

Also, if there is evidence of "crime", then all those involved should be exposed, and that applies to whatever party they belonged to.
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DB Your indignation reads as hollow to me.

The Labour Party has a new hero: Alexis Tsipras
Those who want Ed Miliband to move left are addicted to false comparisons with whichever foreign socialist is temporarily in the headlines that week


Dan Hodges By Dan Hodges3:32PM GMT 26 Jan 2015
Forget about letting Ed be Ed. This morning the Left has a new battle cry: let Ed be Alexis.
Alexis Tsipras is the new socialist prime minister of Greece. Or at least, that’s his day job. His real function is to act as the newly appointed chairman of the Association Of People Who Think Labour Needs To Be Very Left Wing If They Want To Win In May.
It’s an honorary position, and prime minister Tsipras will have no executive powers. Which is just as well, because, if history is any guide, it will prove to be a rather short-lived appointment.
A number of prominent individuals have held the role, not least Ed Miliband himself. You’ll recall that when he was first elected, the Left anointed Ed as one of their own. Quite literally, in fact, seeing as it was the votes of the trade unions that swung the Labour leadership election in his favour. You’ll also remember that for quite a long period - especially during those heady days when Labour had a relatively significant poll lead - Ed was the Left’s standard bearer. He was setting the agenda, and breaking the political mould, and proving it was possible to turn a progressive back on new Labour, and construct a popular and radical left-wing consensus.
But Labour’s poll lead has gradually melted away, and the Tories have now been installed as favourites to win the next election, so you don’t hear many people on the Left saying that any more. Though to be fair, the Left can be a bit fickle.


Just ask François Hollande. He was L’homme. Yes, a touch academic. A bit geeky. But he’d won an election on an anti-austerity, high-tax, soak-the-rich manifesto - and as a result was that week’s future of socialism.
Ed Miliband’s aides scurried around briefing “if Francois can, we can”. Miliband himself described Hollande’s election as representing “a significant moment” on both sides of the Channel. “What does the Left have to prove across Europe and indeed in Britain? That we are the people who can work well in the tough times as well as in the easier times. That’s what he is trying to show in France, and that is what we are trying to show here”.
Again, we don’t seem to hear talk like that any more. Perhaps that because prior to the Paris attacks - which have momentarily and understandably distorted the political picture in France - Hollande was posting personal approval ratings that would have shamed Marie Antoinette, and desperately trying to ditch an economic program that had brought his country to the brink of fiscal Armageddon.
Everywhere you look, the Left’s heroes have been recast as false prophets. By the Left themselves. Barack Obama appeared untouchable, until he developed a fascination with drones, and committed the unforgivable sin of getting on the wrong side of Glenn Greenwald. Even Ed Miliband’s team have been forced to throw their West Wing DVDs out with the trash after Obama penned a joint article with David Cameron praising UK and US economic stewardship.
Democratic mayor Bill de Blasio was another US politician who was appropriated by Team Ed, following his victory in the New York mayoral election. He was invited to be the keynote overseas speaker at last year’s Labour conference, and senior Miliband aide Stewart Wood penned an article for this paper in which he explained – perhaps a little hopefully – how, “the overlaps between de Blasio’s campaign and the themes being developed by Labour under Ed Miliband have struck many an observer”. According to Wood, De Blasio “arrives in office with a unique coalition across a City too often known for its divisions rather than its unity, with a mandate for change and for bringing his City together to succeed in a very different way”. That’s the same Bill de Blasio who has recently managed to unite his city’s police force against him in an unprecedented show of public contempt. I suspect between now and polling day the “overlaps” between him and Miliband will be played down.
So Alexis Tsipras is in good company. And soon, when his grand experiment goes the same way of all of Greece’s other recent grand experiments, he will leave that company, and the Left will anoint a new champion.
To be fair, this is not just a product of fickleness, nor the Left’s inherent love of a betrayal narrative. Part of the problem is our current sense of national insecurity forces us to draw false parallels. Because everything currently has to been seen through the prism of “what will this mean for us”, we see patterns that don’t exist. François Hollande tells us as much about what Ed Miliband and a Labour government would mean for Britain as Margaret Thatcher’s election in 1979 told us about what François Mitterrand’s victory in 1981 presaged for France: nothing.
Another problem is that the Left are still unable to get their head round the fact that the electors of he world’s great democracies were not obliged to react to the crisis of 2008 in the way the Left wanted them to. For every Syriza there is a CDU. For every Alexis Tsipras there is an Angela Merkel. For every voter who thinks, “enough! I want radical change, and I want it now!” there is a voter who says: “These are dangerous times. We need a steady and measured hand on the tiller."
In fact, if anything, for every voter who thinks the former there are currently two who think the latter. For all the post-crash wishful thinking, the pendulum of history is not swinging leftward. It’s not just the Labour party but progressives globally who are still struggling to work out what to do in an age when there’s no more money to spend. They’ll find an answer eventually, and then the pendulum will swing back, as it always does. But in the meantime, Alexis Tsipras should be left to be Alexis Tsipras.

Labour trust falls after Better Together Tory pact


NEARLY a third of Scots say they are less likely to support Labour following the party’s involvement with the Conservatives in the Better Together campaign, a new opinion poll has found.

The Survation poll of more than 1,000 Scots, commissioned by the SNP, showed that 31 per cent of people are now less likely to trust Labour due to its role in the No campaign.

There were 14 per cent who said they are now more likely to be sympathetic to Labour following its Better Together role, with fifty per cent stating that it made no difference.

The poll found that 44 per cent of respondents in Glasgow said they are now less likely to trust Labour, compared to just 16 per cent who said they have more trust.

Nationalist leaders said the findings showed Labour was set to suffer major losses in May’s General Election.

SNP Depute Leader Stewart Hosie said: “Labour are fatally wounded by their Tory alliance, and have clearly lost trust.

“This poll shows the trust problem that Labour now have in Scotland. In the General Election, the one party that can be trusted to stand up for Scotland is the SNP.”

Dan Hodges isn't holding out much hope for Alexis Tsipras in the land of €l Greco.

Well, I suppose history is on Hodges side on that one, but surely he cant be any worse than the crew that went before?