Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Max.

In 10 years time Greece will still be in the E.U.

When I looked (glanced) at ECB's QE I noticed that Mario Draghi seems to have the ability to aim, or direct the money to buying up assets, which were not specified.

Allowing him and colleagues to direct the funds where needed.

(It should have been done 3 years ago and I will be interested in seeing German economic figures in 2-3 months time.)

I am wondering if one of the reasons for the pressure to get Mario Draghi to make the announcement before the Greek Election, was to allow him flexibility in ongoing negotiations with the NEW GREEK GOVERNMENT.

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But I am guessing and the above may bunkum.

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Interesting to watch the market to-day, didn't wobble as much I thought it would, but DOW seems down at the moment!

I jumped out of share bets within the first five minutes of the open, and have slight regrets, but think I will stay out for the rest of the week, until the after effects of Greek election is more apparent. (I have asked my wife ties my hands down.)

she'll relish the chance of giving you a good flogging for all the grief you've given her over the years

Greece's previous government was doing fine. They are in surplus before repayments on loans. That is a huge improvement compared to when they came in.

Fred, you're probably right on the €l Greco situation, but somehow the debt will be cut.


Haystack, what are you drinking?

"They are in surplus before repayments on loans"


What did you think the problem was in the first place?

My wife tells me that she loves me.

Mind she used to say that to the dog.

The only thing I notice is that she beats me harder than she ever did the dog.

Must be trying to tell me something.

Have to think about it!

"cynic - 26 Jan 2015 18:07 - 55870 of 55880

stop blithering stan :-)"

Just following your example old fruit -):

FOR THE RECORD.............FROM THE MIRROR......LEST WE SHOULD FORGET......OR ITS COVERED UP AGAIN.

Ex Tory Cabinet minister 'caught on camera at child sex party'
Dec 07, 2013 22:30 By Justin Penrose, Mark Conrad

The video, along with several photographs, allegedly places the ex-MP, a household name, at a depraved orgy organised by a paedophile


Household name: Top Tory under investigation (pic posed by model)

A former Tory cabinet minister is to be questioned by detectives after a video filmed at an underage sex party was seized by police.

The video, along with a number of photographs, allegedly places the ex-MP, a household name, at a depraved orgy organised by a paedophile.

The photographs were seized from a known child sex offender earlier this year and the video is believed to have come from another source.

The veteran Tory, who we cannot name for legal reasons, is understood to deny any wrongdoing. But an alleged victim, who claims to have been at the event three decades ago, has come forward.

Detectives used pictures of the alleged victim when he was a boy to cross reference with those of him at the party.

Sources close to the investigation have made known the shocking new revelations to the Sunday Mirror and investigative news website Exaro.

We previously revealed that the former minister was being investigated by detectives over allegations of child abuse.

The key witness said: “The police tell me that they have photographic evidence that I went to these parties. They have a photograph of me as a child, and it matched some other photographs that they have of me. They have a bit of film as well.”

Officers are due to begin a separate operation in the New Year into the sex party allegations as a spin-off from Operation Fairbank, which last year looked into allegations of abuse by politicians at the Elm Guest House in south west London.

While the video and photographs allegedly place the ex-minister and the victim at a party where boys were supplied to men, they do not prove that the former politician carried out any abuse.

But one source, a specialist in child protection, said: “This is potentially bombshell stuff. I have long been aware of the fact that these parties took place in London. This could be very significant.”

Detectives believe that some of the sex parties – some of which are believed to have been attended by paedophiles Jimmy Savile and MP Cyril Smith – were organised by Britain’s most notorious child abuser, Sidney Cooke, as we revealed in February.

Cooke led the ring of four jailed for killing Jason Swift in Hackney, East London, after gang-raping him in 1984.

The alleged victim claims he was ­trafficked, along with other children, to Holland by Cooke’s gang.

Scotland Yard’s paedophile unit has been working with Dutch police, and an officer from Amsterdam attended an interview by Met detectives with the key witness.

The Sunday Mirror told in February how the minister had been photographed by police in 1986 entering a property where one of the sex parties was being held, but no arrests were made.

Cooke, now 86, would pick up the unsuspecting teenage boys from streets around Kings Cross. He would drive them to places across North London where paedophiles lay in wait to rape them repeatedly.

A former officer, who worked on Operation Orchid which convicted Cooke and his gang, claimed they had taken pictures of the minister and that 16 members of an alleged VIP paedophile ring were due to be arrested.

But the day before the arrests were to be carried out, detectives were told the operation had been disbanded.

Scotland Yard said they would not comment on an on-going investigation.

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5152/met-s-paedophile-unit-seizes-video-of-ex-minister-at-sex-party

Douglas Carswell was on the Daily Politics programme today - what a drip that guy is and no loss to the Conservatives. Good riddance, UKIP are welcome to him! :-)

The other defector, Reckless, is no better. They were both trouble makers in the party with no chance of promotion. That may have been their motive in switching parties.

Their constituents seemed to think they were worth the bother.

The constituents of Clacton share a brain cell. It is full of little Englanders.

Reckless ddn't do that well in Rochester, bearing in mind that he was the sitting MP. His seat could be overturned at the GE. His majority dropped from 10,000 (20%) to 3,000 (7%) when standing for UKIP.

I think you are missing the point Big Time Haystack.

Your right Max just look at the UKIP figure in this poll thats come out tonight...........

Survation/Mirror – CON 31%, LAB 30%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 23%, GRN 3%

...............23%


Spells disaster for the Tories when it comes to SEATS.

do you REALLY believe a 23% vote for ukip is on the cards?
i think that's total make-believe
13%? .... just possibly

CHICKEN..............

Cameron to take part in TV debates if N Ireland included

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30997410

WHO NEXT.....TANKERS CON CLUB??????????

If SNP is part of the debate then you have to have the NI parties. That could make it an extra three parties. A debate with ten people would be very amusing. It would also be pointless. Farage was annoyed by adding SNP and the Greens, now he will be furious. His message would get list amongst ten others. It was the broadcasters that added SNP and Plaid Cymru. Cameron just wanted to add the Greens.