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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Darradev - 05 Nov 2007 18:59 - 56 of 21973

Evening spit...

did the same a couple of day ago on the ISA Porfolio. Interestingly my higher risk shares are bucking the downtrend, but don't mention the bankers !


Just looked at the charts - dropping nicely.

Darradev - 05 Nov 2007 19:07 - 57 of 21973

Thanks Cynic, will keep Damian in mind.

Am currently overseas on work stuff, so family won't mind if I am in front of a computer screen most evenings.

Slow - 05 Nov 2007 19:43 - 58 of 21973

Just as the only guys who made money in old gold rush days were the sellers of picks and shovels, I think the only guys who make money out of Elliot waves are the guys who sell the books telling us all how to get rich using them... and yep, they are a wonderous hindsight tool. Still, no doubt we'll get an 'expert' tell us we're wrong. (again...)

cynic - 05 Nov 2007 20:03 - 59 of 21973

i like that analogy ..... i have used same for the likes of PFC (qv)

Darradev - 05 Nov 2007 20:24 - 60 of 21973

Ah well, win some, lose some. Time for R&R.

Falcothou - 05 Nov 2007 20:33 - 61 of 21973

Seems like strong support at 13450. FTSE seems to follow Dow during trading hours and dow futures out of them!

cynic - 05 Nov 2007 20:52 - 62 of 21973

Dow is all over the place, but certainly trying to finish on at least a strongish note ..... believe 13650 is quite a critical number

cynic - 07 Nov 2007 18:24 - 63 of 21973

this is all looking very gruesome unless you are running shorts and/or long bullion ..... nevertheless, we are still a very long way from being in a bear market, but watch out!

yet again, i suggest you take a look at the various charts that i posted at the beginning, and then make your own mind up as to whether (some of) the indices are about to bounce, or if traffic remains firmly south-bound

Falcothou - 07 Nov 2007 18:37 - 64 of 21973

Broke through the 13450 support and down to the 13380 support from which it has bounced

spitfire43 - 07 Nov 2007 18:48 - 65 of 21973

If dow ends at these level then will be an interesting start for the ftse 100 with opening below support of 6400. Will take a view tomorrow morning, I have no open positions at moment.

cynic - 07 Nov 2007 18:59 - 66 of 21973

am running shorts in Dow, NRK and SOLA .... closed short FTSE prematurely, albeit at a respectable profit

Falcothou - 07 Nov 2007 20:03 - 67 of 21973

heard on radio that LSE had glitch at 4pm making ftse swing wildly causing an extra hour of auction for trades to be processed

cynic - 07 Nov 2007 20:11 - 68 of 21973

and just closed Dow short ..... can't be bothered to watch minute/minute so took a very respectable profit as index swinging all over the place

spitfire43 - 08 Nov 2007 07:55 - 69 of 21973

Wish I had the foresight to go short on ftse yesterday, but I'm only blessed with hindsight. For traders who have shorts still open, I think you will have a very good day. Good luck.

cynic - 08 Nov 2007 08:00 - 70 of 21973

with hindsight, i wish i had had the balls to keep running both my Dow and FTSE shorts, but in truth that would have been totally stupid, as the market could just as suddenly have changed direction ...... a profit is a profit!

cynic - 08 Nov 2007 08:20 - 71 of 21973

am inclined to think that the indices will bounce today, but that may well be just hope over expectation, and certainly the charts give no solace.

nevertheless, because i am a total tosser (no comment please!!), i have taken out a small FTSE long, though shall be monitoring constantly.

Falcothou - 08 Nov 2007 09:09 - 72 of 21973

Going to be very interesting for gold and dollar, if BOE or ECB cut rates

cynic - 08 Nov 2007 10:04 - 73 of 21973

doubt very much that either will cut ..... why should they? ..... further, it is dangerous for not only will it signal further major underlying problems, but also stoke inflation say 2 years down the line

HARRYCAT - 08 Nov 2007 10:54 - 74 of 21973

DOW futures currently -24. Are you still long the FTSE, cynic? Brave call either way.

cynic - 08 Nov 2007 11:27 - 75 of 21973

yes .... but only opened that pos this morning (ditto Dow) ...... FTSE very nicely in the money
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