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ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND (RBS)     

cashcaptain - 09 May 2007 13:23

ANYONE KNOW WHY THE ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND IS SHOWING A SHARE PRICE AROUND THE 6.59 MARK WHEN IT WAS 18.00 OR SO THE OTHER WEEK OR AM I GOING STRANGE?????????????

skinny - 14 Jan 2009 07:44 - 560 of 676

Royal Bk Scot.Grp Disposal





TIDMRBS

RNS Number : 6028L
Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC
14 January 2009

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The Royal Bank of Scotland Group plc announces disposal of equity stake in Bank
of China


14 January 2009


Not for release, publication or distribution, directly or indirectly, in or into
the United States, Canada, Australia, Japan or South Africa.



The Royal Bank of Scotland Group plc ("RBS") announces that it has disposed of
its 4.26% equity stake in Bank of China for a net consideration of GBP1.6 bn.
RBS sold 10.8 bln H shares at HK $1.71 per share.


The decision to sell the stake forms part of the ongoing strategic review of the
Group's businesses announced in October. After taking account of tax and the
effects of currency hedging, the impact of this disposal on the Group's capital
ratios is expected to be broadly neutral.


Furthermore, from January 2009 the Group will no longer record the equity
minority interests relating to our original consortium investment in Bank of
China in its accounts. The loss of these equity minority interests reduces the
Group's capital ratios by approximately 15 to 20 basis points. As a result of
the above actions, the Group will benefit from an overall reduction in RWAs of
around GBP4bn.


RBS will continue to operate its network of branches across China in the areas
of Global Banking & Markets, Global Transaction Services, Wealth Management, and
Retail & Commercial Banking.


Notes to Editors


RBS announced its equity investment of GBP0.9bn in Bank of China on 18th August
2005, leading a consortium which acquired 10% of its issued share capital. The
RBS stake was diluted to 4.26% following the flotation on the Hong Kong and
Shanghai stock exchanges. RBS received dividends in respect of its 4.26% stake
of GBP80m in 2008.




tomasz - 14 Jan 2009 13:36 - 561 of 676

after tax and all stuff they will get back what they invest 3 years ago..0.9bil always better than nothing now..
yea some analyst estimate worth 0.96p now..looks like market shititself..good for as cause we can get lots now for less and bad cause it'll take some time to get back to value..and we got no patience

mitzy - 14 Jan 2009 15:31 - 562 of 676

Down another 15% the City is in no mood with banks.

halifax - 14 Jan 2009 16:00 - 563 of 676

There wont be much left to short on monday!

maestro - 14 Jan 2009 16:44 - 564 of 676

trouble is they'll probably all go long instead and catch every body out

mitzy - 15 Jan 2009 20:15 - 565 of 676

Wont be long now...!

hangon - 16 Jan 2009 16:51 - 566 of 676

- - - - - - - - - - BANKS today - - - - - - (DYOR) - - -
BARC =minus25% - - - - 98p
LLOY = minus 5% - - - - - 98p ( but was positive most of the day).
RBS = minus 13% - - - - 34p
CTT = +8% - - - - - 19p

Added Cattles. . . (OK not a "real Bank" - but someone might say: Neither are the others!-Ho-Ho)
BARC was wrong%, but the price is correct - AND who would have thought it, eh?

Sorry abt. errors etc. skinny,
-unfortunately I haven't worked out how to collect the necessary data and post in one go....it would be nice if we could have a BANK thread, so we might watch/compare...otherwise this switching "Quote" is somewhat long-winded. If it was a floating "Compose" then I could switch between Stocks.....has no-one suggested this? The new-style Winners/losers also has a "sector" option, unfortunately they are still either Win/Lose so you can't get a one-stop "picture.

+I understood BARC did a deal with the MiddleEast at 12%-ish - possible to fund Barclaycard, where the intrterest-rate is well into the 20's - - - so they will shut-down any traditional low-rate loans ( Whoops!) and try to switch customers into plastic ( Yikes!)....they alone of the Big-Banks did not take Government money - - - but maybe now they can't resist.... anyone?

[ IMHO, Banking could get very Nasty for idiot Customers - - - - and it's none too good for prudent Savers - whose income has been halved.(Bah Bah, Humbug!).]

skinny - 16 Jan 2009 16:55 - 567 of 676

LLoy closed @98.4 -4.9%

edit - your edit quicker than mine!

edit BARC was -24.9%

mitzy - 16 Jan 2009 17:26 - 568 of 676

7p is my target.

tomasz - 16 Jan 2009 19:04 - 569 of 676

wow that was quiet something
lucky those went short at the time

hangon - 16 Jan 2009 21:47 - 570 of 676

7p mitzy - is that the value of BARC you are saying? OK they may have some toxic debts, but these can't be all that big (can they?)- and BARC did secure a loan of-sorts from the middle-east at 14% - so they have enough to tick-over OR do you consider this is nonsense....e.g. that when "bust" the only value is the office furniture and building leases, etc? (see*).
I will agree that the departure of a Dir is unsettling - esp at this rather dangerous time (UK-restoration of Shorting).
+Can you provide further insight, - pse?
.
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* Many consider HBOS was broke ( well damn close) - and that was taken-over by LLOY at a reasonably large price, presumably for its network, underlying Mortgages and infrastructure. Their problem was lack of cash, but this was papered-over/ smoothed-out by UK Gov ( =uk Taxpayers!). They have some redeeming cash from savers, but these are relatively small compared with the HBOS "loan-book" hence the difficulty when no-one will lend, etc.

robertalexander - 17 Jan 2009 09:02 - 571 of 676

anyone think that shorting the banks will be banned again real soon?
Else i can foresee the Govt having to step in and (part/whole)nationalise them.
If shorting banned then maybe a chance for a quick[high risk imho] profit from those having to close their positions.

halifax - 17 Jan 2009 13:00 - 572 of 676

The only bank Gordon Brown cannot nationalise is Barclays as so far they have not taken any taxpayers money. Latest statement from Barclays seems to contradict the markets perception of the value of their business.

robertalexander - 17 Jan 2009 19:40 - 573 of 676

possibly good for a bounce then? albeit high risk

mitzy - 17 Jan 2009 20:45 - 574 of 676

I predicted 20/30p for RBS in October but I think 7p would be true figure now and 60p for Barclays.

tomasz - 18 Jan 2009 01:16 - 575 of 676

don't you scare me mitzy with that 7p

mitzy - 18 Jan 2009 09:21 - 576 of 676

Its scary stuff tomasz one broker said 1p last week, JPM said 9p and another 18p in November.. take your pick.

700202 - 18 Jan 2009 12:30 - 577 of 676

AN RBS UPGRADE Friday from Dresdner K from HOLD to BUY

mitzy - 18 Jan 2009 19:54 - 578 of 676

Latest:

RBS to convert 5bill of preference shares held by the government to Ordinary shares resulting in a 70% stake.

So we now have a bank 70% owned by the taxpayer where does this leave the shareholder..?

700202 - 18 Jan 2009 20:35 - 579 of 676

Well the way I see it ,the bank does not have to pay the 12% interest on the 5
billion pref shares,so this would free up and save the bank money,I would consider this good news
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