Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

can any one tell me if any muslim or a black person has ever
discovered anything for the better of man kind .to save and for the better
health of people

I makes absolutely no difference what Israel has done or achieved as they have done it on stolen land and in the blood of the land's rightful owners. It would be like praising the successes of the Nazis or Mussolini. It is an argument that has no credibility.

As far as muslims are concerned, our number system is Arabic and they were some of the greatest mathematicians in history. Of course we must not forget the Pyramids built by Egyptians.

As regards black people there are similar lists and there is The Black Inventors and Patent Holders List.

Here are a few muslims discoveries and inventions and all done on land they they did not steal. The complere list is far too extensive to post here.

Acetic acid: Jābir ibn Hayyān isolated acetic acid from vinegar.
Citric acid Jābir ibn Hayyān is also credited with the discovery and isolation of citric acid, the sour component of lemons and other unripe fruits.
Nitric acid, sulfuric acid, and hydrochloric acid: The mineral acids nitric acid, sulfuric acid, and hydrochloric acid were first isolated by Jābir ibn Hayyān. He originally referred to sulfuric acid as the oil of vitriol.]
Tartaric acid: Jābir ibn Hayyān isolated tartaric acid from wine-making residues.

The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham. He invented the first pin-hole camera after noticing the way light came through a hole in window shutters. The smaller the hole, the better the picture, he worked out, and set up the first Camera Obscura (from the Arab word qamara for a dark or private room). He is also credited with being the first man to shift physics from a philosophical activity to an experimental one.

Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today.

Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry.

The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari to raise water for irrigation. His 1206 Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices shows he also invented or refined the use of valves and pistons, devised some of the first mechanical clocks driven by water and weights, and was the father of robotics. Among his 50 other inventions was the combination lock.

The pointed arch so characteristic of Europe's Gothic cathedrals was an invention borrowed from Islamic architecture. It was much stronger than the rounded arch used by the Romans and Normans, thus allowing the building of bigger, higher, more complex and grander buildings. Other borrowings from Muslim genius included ribbed vaulting, rose windows and dome-building techniques. Europe's castles were also adapted to copy the Islamic world's - with arrow slits, battlements, a barbican and parapets. Square towers and keeps gave way to more easily defended round ones. Henry V's castle architect was a Muslim.

Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised are recognisable to a modern surgeon. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey ate his lute strings) and that it can be also used to make medicine capsules. In the 13th century, another Muslim medic named Ibn Nafis described the circulation of the blood, 300 years before William Harvey discovered it. Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.

The windmill was invented in 634 for a Persian caliph and was used to grind corn and draw up water for irrigation. In the vast deserts of Arabia, when the seasonal streams ran dry, the only source of power was the wind which blew steadily from one direction for months. Mills had six or 12 sails covered in fabric or palm leaves. It was 500 years before the first windmill was seen in Europe.

The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.

The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes. It held ink in a reservoir and, as with modern pens, fed ink to the nib by a combination of gravity and capillary action.

The system of numbering in use all round the world is probably Indian in origin but the style of the numerals is Arabic and first appears in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. Algebra was named after al-Khwarizmi's book, Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah, much of whose contents are still in use. The work of Muslim maths scholars was imported into Europe 300 years later by the Italian mathematician Fibonacci. Algorithms and much of the theory of trigonometry came from the Muslim world. And Al-Kindi's discovery of frequency analysis rendered all the codes of the ancient world soluble and created the basis of modern cryptology.

By the 9th century, many Muslim scholars took it for granted that the Earth was a sphere. The proof, said astronomer Ibn Hazm, "is that the Sun is always vertical to a particular spot on Earth". It was 500 years before that realisation dawned on Galileo. The calculations of Muslim astronomers were so accurate that in the 9th century they reckoned the Earth's circumference to be 40,253.4km - less than 200km out. The scholar al-Idrisi took a globe depicting the world to the court of King Roger of Sicily in 1139.

hay , thank you for that info but it not all correct .
but still very good . so why is it that in the 21st century
they turn to killing and blowing up children by putting bombs on them .
to make there point that is why NO one gives a dam about them
now if they did it by the word they would get results .
FACT

only insane humans turn to murder
and never win anything only death
then they no nothing .

Don't forget that Israel has a history of murdering people from its beginning to the present day. Its terrorists ended up as the government of Israel. Palestinians are just resisting the occupation of their land by another country. It is very similar to the French resistance resisting the Nazis during the WWII and the Palestinians Authority/Fattah are equivalent to the French Vichy government who were collaborating with the Germans. The equivalent to the Nazis is of course Israel, who are behaving in a similar way.

hay you are missing the point .
if they said no more bombings
and said said they want the world.
powers to get results then it would happen
they could then live has one with no borders
but theweapons must be destoyed for ever .
it can and should happen very quick
if this was to happen

Not so. Israel is intent on expansion into the West Bank. Israel's talk of peace and their vision of it is to stall the process. Previously they accepted 1967 borders and even senior army ex generals only yesterday said the 1967 borders were defensible. They are using the time to settle more Palestinian land. The right wing of Israel's government which holds the balance of power wants all of the West Bank as far as the river Jordan to be Israel. Israel passes more and more racist laws every week. They now regard settled land in the West Bank as part of Israel. The peace process stalls because of Israel. It was clear from the leaked PA papers months ago that the Palestinians had made huge concessions in the peace talks and it was Israel that were refusing them even though they got what they wanted.

hay i will say again youare missing what i am posting and saying
the world would look and out very quick to stop israel in its track if you called
on hamas and others to put down the weapons for 2 years for them to act .
then if no results from this then the rest would support your plight even myself

Palestine: the Worlds Next Nation State
Palestine: the Worlds Next Nation State Dr. Bernard Sabella Jerusalem July 26, 2011 I am just overwhelmed with the Avaaz petition on Palestine: the worlds next nation as I instantly follow the signatures that are coming in and as of 13:50 pm on Tuesday July 26, 2011, over 445,388 people from all over the world have signed the petition and counting. The target is 500,000 and I am sure Avaaz will surpass this number easily.http://www.avaaz.org/en/indepe​ndence_for_palestine_uk/?cl=11​75765633&v=9676 Scrolling down the names and countries makes me more hopeful than ever; not simply because these signatories reinforce the Palestinian application for full UN membership but because of the belief of decent people out there, irrespective of national, religious or political background in human dignity by responding to the legitimate aspiration of our Palestinian people of ending occupation and having our own state. Seeing that there are signatories from Israel and from the Jewish Diaspora particularly uplifts my spirits. This says that there are many silent people everywhere in the world who share the same values and adhere to the same principles of respect for justice and fulfillment of basic human rights to each and everyone. Thanks to an American friend in the Mid West I have been alerted to the petition and I have alerted others. What we seek as Palestinians is not further confrontation but an end to a seemingly endless conflict and the continued Israeli control of our people and occupation of our lands. We are not asking the impossible but simply to be like other nations. While acceptance as full members to the UN will reassure us that the UN is once again the reference point for further political negotiations, it is not going to be easy for us post acceptance. The US Congress threatens to stop US aid to the Palestinians, Israel threatens to withhold taxes and custom duties collected on behalf of the Palestinian Authority and some countries, while acknowledging the right and the preparedness of the Palestinians to their own state, prefer to see a negotiated declaration of a Palestinian state. One needs to acknowledge that the status quo in the Palestinian Territories today cannot be maintained indefinitely. While state institutions of the Palestinian National Authority are on par to state institutions of over 100 member states in the United Nations, yet we are denied membership because of the tilted position of the USA and of the control by Israel of the Palestinian Territories and as some would say of Capitol Hill. The Palestinian National Authority has become simply an authority that runs basic municipal functions with some attention to infrastructure needs. In addition, the PNA and the Palestinian people have become hostage to the aid provided by donor countries and agencies and hence this dependence has limited the options left to us. We cannot continue living on aid ad nauseam. Some, particularly in Washington and Tel Aviv, insist that it is wrong to unilaterally go to the UN. But multilateralism; i.e., negotiations with Israel sponsored by the USA not to speak of the Quartet and its feebleness , has proven that it is not a feasible proposal as its end objective is to see the Palestinians serve Israel and do its dirty control and hegemony part whenever the palestustan state is declared by multilateral agreement. So we Palestinians have nothing to lose by going to the UN, come what may. Some among us are worried that nothing will change as of October 1st, 2011. So be it but if our application to UN membership is accepted or vetoed or postponed or denied altogether, we are sending a message to the world that we want our freedom and we want to be a nation-state like all other 193 UN member states.
By: Kairos Palestine

hay i have fahel on block because he is just a nutter and does not want to
cure the problem he and is kind are the problem .
i expect he is a beggar for is living

Tanker you are correct about fahel-just a small minded individual which stems from his phobic rots.

fahel-look at this link if you want the truth about the UN and its bigoted members.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Mupoo1At8

Hay- an impressive list of achievements-possibly as brother nations tha Muslims and Jews would make a formidable force for the betterment of mankind-if only they would turn away from violence-thats the arab side.

It is not possible for the Palestinians to turn away from violence when their land has been stolen and is being stolen day after day even now. It is clear that Israel does not want peace. You would think that a request prior to peace talks for illegal settlement to stop would be seen as a pretty mild thing. The fact that Israel continues to build settlements is a clear sign that resistance by force is the necessary path. Only yesterday Tzipi Hotovely, Israeli member of Knesset of the Likud party headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, called on the Israeli government to escalate the construction and expansion of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, in occupied East Jerusalem and the occupied Negev. Her statements came during a meeting for the Likud party on Monday evening.

Hotovely claimed that Israel needs to construct more settlements in order to resolve the current housing crisis in Israel. All settlements in the occupied territories, besides being built in violation to International Law and the Fourth Geneva Conventions, are Jewish-only.

Hotovely stated that the Israeli government can resolve the housing crisis by encouraging the Israelis to live in border areas in Israel in addition to the West Bank and Jerusalem.

It is worth mentioning that Hotovely is preparing to present a plan to the Israeli Knesset aiming at extending the boundaries of Jerusalem, as part of the so-called Greater Jerusalem Plan, by annexing more Palestinians lands in the occupied West Bank.

The full list of muslim achievements is vast. The ones I posted were not from muslim sites, by largely from The Independent and some wiki lists.

If the person who killed 100+ people in Norway were Muslim or Palestinian, the Press would have declared him as a terrorist. For now though, he is just an 'Assailant ', 'Attacker' (Reuters), 'Gunman' (BBC, CNN & Al Jazeera). Looks like 'Terrorist ' is a name reserved for Muslims and Palestinian? The US Dept of State calls it an 'Act of Violence', Not an 'Act of Terrorism'.

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Subject: New Zealand spies.....



WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) A New Zealand newspaper group is reporting that the deadly February earthquake in Christchurch unearthed a suspected Israeli spy ring.

Three Israelis had died in the quake that killed 181 people. Other Israelis escaped the quake.

The Fairfax newspaper group, which didnt state how it obtained the information, said one of the Israelis who died was carrying at least five passports.

Fairfax said New Zealand Prime Minister John Key took four calls from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu following the quake, and that an unaccredited Israeli search and rescue squad searching a cordoned area in Christchurch was stopped by New Zealand officers.

Key, who is traveling in California, told media Wednesday that it wasnt in the national interest to comment about the report

Fahel,

Please will you provide a link to Newspaper containing the information.

Fred

Yes, I will try.

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/report-deadly-new-zealand-earthquake-unearths-israeli-spy-ring-prime-minister-won%E2%80%99t-comment/