Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

one thing on which i hope we're all agreed is that just throwing money at NHS will not solve anything for the longer term and probably not even in the short term

Some light reading for you Fred.


http://www.who.int/biologicals/vaccines/influenza/en/

Manuel,

I will surprise you there, I agree that money should not be indiscriminately thrown at the NHS.

It needs the fat and thin controllers to sit down and think what the foreseeable goals of the NHS and Welfare systems should be over the next 20 years and which route to get there.

It needs "test" runs of "bright ideas" before costly introductions and then some failures.

It needs a lifting of moral and removal of some of the "competitions" between different groups in the services and acceptance that the goals are the same, the approaches can be different.

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Observing from the outside is interesting.

I doubt that the systems can be apolitical, but if a pattern of coalition government does become established is "might" be easier, especially if the pattern is ongoing with a movement to "proportional" representation.

the bits i mentioned in 56387 are "actual" and not just some fanciful thought of mine

it is very unfortunate and of benefit to no one that NHS has become a complete political football, but it would be very much wishful thinking that it will revert to an apolitical let alone altruistic or even x-party problem to be solved

NHS's conception was based on an ideology which has never been accepted by some.

it's been hijacked by all

Oh no it hasn't.

Right wing cartoon alert!

Stan alert

Substitute Cameron and UK

Rf

I should be carefull what you post on here regards Philip Scholfield , even if you are joking.

Bleeding Yanks http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-31196933

How many of the New Doctors and Nurses often boasted about by Cameron and Hunt are part timers and working for various agencies?

Give it a rest Fred , its Sunday morning