Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

How close is "nearly"?

Perhaps, you should ask your granny about the history.

Well we joined the COMMON MARKET in the 70's, but apparently that
was only a wolf in sheep's clothing, approx 43 years ago.

The SNP have been getting carried away with the atmosphere at their
conference and in all the excitement have gone into overdrive on the
threats of another independence vote if the UK goes ahead with Brexit,
and are overdosing with their bluster and bluff..

The scrotes DO NOT have any bargaining chips, without England they would
be fu****, they would have to reapply to join the EU, which would entail
them joining the euro and shengen zone, and Germany would implement
severe austerity measures to get their deficit down, but would Germany want
another dead lame duck to fund...

I have no real beef with the Jocks, but they will insist on electing leaders who are away with the fairies.

If the wee one gets her way, a re-building project might be a better use of money than HS2:

And you can understand why some of the "jocks" consider the little englanders condescending boys.

Funny enough Fred, I cant/don't understand..your logic defeats me.

the low oil price has totally fucked scotland and it would be totally bankrupt unless bankrolled from london

That statement from fred on little englanders is somewhat a misnomer in
this case after all its the scots that want to be little scoties..

So be it!



EU council president: it's hard Brexit or no Brexit at all

Donald Tusk scotches Boris Johnson’s argument that the UK could strike a better deal with the EU after Brexit


Jennifer Rankin in Brussels and Heather Stewart

Friday 14 October 2016 06.59 BST



More: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/13/its-hard-brexit-or-no-brexit-at-all-says-eu-council-president

The Europeans seemed more concerned with us leaving than we do.

I'm resigned to the fact that there will be no deal on the single market when we leave and anything better than that is a bonus.

It really isn't the end of the world not being in the single market and over time deals will be done that will compensate for it. These may be with the EU itself (if it survives) and/or the rest of the world.

Deals at what prices?

I forgot at Marmite prices.

For those who haven't already read it, here is an interesting summary:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-inflation-idUKKCN12D1SZ?feedType=nl&feedName=ukmorningdigest&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK%20Morning%20Digest%202016-10-14&utm_term=UK%20Morning%20Digest

At a better bloody price than we've had with the EU for the past 40 odd years.

Fred , the pound goes down then it goes up and then it goes down and then it goes up etc etc.

Just the natural order of things.

Inflation is good, within reason.

ZIRP is killing everything, except the tossers who sunk the whole shooting match.

Dil,


"When my master adopted the Panglossian view of the universe I used no arguments that might cloud his serenity."

Spot on Dil. The pound is the lowest for 35 years, so 35 years ago the pound was lower than it is now, did the sky fall in then, no of course it didn't. The pound strengthened from there just as it will from wherever the low point is reached in this cycle.
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We are powerless to harness nature!

May as well cop out.

certainly it has been shown that gov't intervention cannot stop currency fluctuations
by and large, exchange rates are driven more by sentiment and impetus than by logic

the recovery in oil prices similarly, as can be seen at the moment