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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 16 Feb 2015 19:44 - 56663 of 81564

ukip mockumentary
shame this clashes with broadchurch, which is what i shall be watching, for this ukip spoof (satire?) will raise all sorts of hackles and better for sure

dreamcatcher - 16 Feb 2015 19:45 - 56664 of 81564

There may also be a vast amount of Fred's this year. (Non voters, disinterested and undecided ) So come on don't be a Fred. :-))

dreamcatcher - 16 Feb 2015 19:48 - 56665 of 81564

F.R.E.D.S = Answers on a postcard please.

dreamcatcher - 16 Feb 2015 20:06 - 56666 of 81564

Bicycling-are-you-a-fred ?

Chris Carson - 16 Feb 2015 20:48 - 56667 of 81564



Fred's dying words

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A man named Fred was in a terrible car accident. He survived, but barely. Several bones were broken, and he was forced to go to the Emergency Room in the local hospital.

His wife and kids were worried sick. They came to visit him every day that they could for weeks. However, his condition did not seem to improve, and they feared the worst.

Being a religious family, they called in the local priest to stand by his hospital bed and pray for his survival.

As soon as the priest showed up, Fred's condition seemed to suddenly deteriorate. He frantically motioned for something to write on. The priest pulled a notepad and a pen out of his jacket and handed them to Fred.

Fred wrote his final note, and gave it back to the priest. Thinking it best not to read it right then, he put it back inside his jacket and continued praying. After a short while, Fred died, to the intense sorrow of his family and friends.

Three days later, at Fred's funeral service, the priest was saying a few words for Fred, when he realized he was wearing the same jacket that he wore next to Fred's deathbed--with the note still inside!

"Brothers and Sisters," he said, "Fred gave me this note on his deathbed. I thought it best not to read it then. However, i think the time has come for people to know what his final words were."

The priest took the notepad out of his jacket pocket, and read to the crowd "You're standing on my oxygen tube!!"

aldwickk - 16 Feb 2015 22:18 - 56668 of 81564

ukip mockumentary says more about the Left wing media attempts to discredit one of the largest political party's in the UK just a few months away from a GE, its nothing more then a smear campaign . It should be reported to the broadcasting authority

MaxK - 16 Feb 2015 22:29 - 56669 of 81564

It wont be tho, classy assasination job...very well done!


Now where does the money come from to do the same for the other 3 parties?

Chris Carson - 17 Feb 2015 00:29 - 56670 of 81564

Ed Balls among 12 shadow cabinet members who claimed expenses without receipts

Following shadow chancellor's advice that everyone should get a receipt for cash in hand jobs, Labour MPs put in spotlight over their expense claims

Ed Balls is among 12 shadow cabinet members who claimed for cash-in-hand jobs without submitting receipts.


Ed Balls and 11 other members of the shadow cabinet claimed expenses for cleaning, gardening or odd jobs without submitting receipts, seriously undermining the shadow chancellor’s advice that we should all insist on invoices for cash-in-hand jobs.


Mr Balls claimed £1,610 for cleaners and his wife Yvette Cooper claimed £2,640 for cleaning and gardening, out of a total of £37,881 claimed by the 12 Labour MPs.





Ed Balls claims expenses for cleaners in 2006


Mr Balls, in common with his 11 colleagues, did not submit a single receipt for the work done, despite his insistence on Monday that he had obtained receipts for every single cash payment since he entered politics 21 years ago.

He had earlier said that even someone who “cuts your hedge for a tenner” should provide an invoice to discourage tax avoidance, and claimed that he had the “name and address and a receipt” for every cash transaction because it was “the right thing to do”.

Amid growing signs of a rift at the top of the Labour Party, Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, appeared to belittle Mr Balls by saying that he wanted to pursue hedge funds for tax avoidance, not hedge cutters.

He said: “I think we’re all clear: the hedge funds and hedge funds dealing with these issues is more important than the hedge cutters and I think that has been a clarity of view right across our Shadow Cabinet.”

Iain Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, ridiculed Mr Balls’s suggestion, saying: “Here we have a man that would be the Chancellor who is wandering around saying Big Brother is going to watch you carefully that if you do any tax transactions and don't keep receipts, somehow they're going to punish you. I find that absurd.”

A Conservative Party source said: “Ed Balls needs to clean up his act on his own expenses before lecturing others. If he can't even manage his own finances how can he expect anyone to trust him with the nation’s coffers?”

David Cameron said he had occasionally paid for goods and services in cash without getting a receipt, but insisted that he has never helped someone “evade the taxes that they should pay”.

A Downing Street spokesman said: “The onus is on the trader who is responsible for paying the taxes that they owe.”


Vernon Coaker, the shadow defence secretary, claimed £14,950 in unreceipted expenses over a four-year period, comprising £3,425 for cleaning, £6,320 for service and maintenance, and £5,205 for repairs on his second home.

A spokesman for Mr Balls on Monday defended his cleaning claims, saying: “Ed’s cleaner was and continues to be employed on PAYE and paid by bank transfer. These claims were made fully in accordance with the Fees Office rules.”

But there was more embarrassment for Mr Balls as it emerged that he had made basic errors in adding up one of his claims and had filled in his expenses forms incorrectly for months.

In March 2007 he claimed a total of £1,182.14 in expenses for his second home, though the actual total for the items claimed was £100 more.

For eight consecutive months in 2005 and 2006 Mr Balls filled in his expenses forms wrongly, putting each figure one line above where it should have been. It meant that in June 2006 his £70 cleaning bill was not paid because he had entered it under “telephone” and the following month an exasperated official wrote a note on his form saying: “Rang member & asked to fill in form correctly!”

He also submitted that claim twice, and tried to claim £1,298.17 for his mortgage, instead of the £733 he had been claiming until then, resulting in the difference being slashed from his reimbursement.

Mr Balls and Ms Cooper are at least in good company, with almost half the MPs in the shadow cabinet filing unreceipted expenses.

Rosie Winterton, Labour’s chief whip, claimed £8,058 without receipts over the course of four years, comprising £5,280 for cleaning, £2,302 for “repairs”, £300 for service and maintenance and £175 for gardening.

In July 2008 the parliamentary Fees Office - which at the time scrutinised MPs’ expenses - wrote to her to express concerns about her spending

TANKER - 17 Feb 2015 07:43 - 56671 of 81564

Osborne uses tax avoidance and is home is in trust , the man is a liar and a crook and looking at him is he also on drugs

cynic - 17 Feb 2015 08:26 - 56672 of 81564

much more entertainingly i am sure ...... did anyone watch the UKIP mockumentary last night?

i didn't, but would like to know what it was like

MaxK - 17 Feb 2015 08:39 - 56673 of 81564

I saw most of it c.

Very slick, major production, must have cost a packet.

All to do with immigration, nothing at all about €urope and the reasons for ukip existing.


Still, I think it will backfire judging by comment in the newspapers.


What wasn't mentioned tho, was the usual metro elite shananigans:



Director of UKIP Smear ‘Mockumentary’ In Court For Tax Fraud


by A.B. Sanderson 16 Feb 2015



The director of a controversial spoof documentary on Nigel Farage and UKIP will be appearing in Southwark Crown Court on Friday of this week, charged with cheating the public revenue.

Chris Atkins, a journalist and film-maker who gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry, is accused of perpetrating a £2.5 million tax fraud plot along with twelve others. The Crown Prosecution Service say he was involved in a complex five-year scam to cheat the taxman, including seven investment bankers, the Ham and High reported at the time.

Mr Atkins directed the controversial programme which has caused anger amongst the party’s supporters before it has even been aired for featuring race riots and a melt down in the country after 100 days of a UKIP government being in power.

The plot is timed three months into Britain’s first UKIP government where pubs are filled again with smokers, border guards are forcibly repatriating illegal immigrants and there are race riots on the street. Border police storm Indian restaurants, while neo-Nazi gangs are seen supporting the party, which for years has banned any member of an extremist political organisation including the BNP and Hope Not Hate, from being members of the libertarian organisation.



More: hTtp://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/16/exclusive-director-of-ukip-smear-mockumentary-in-court-for-tax-fraud/

cynic - 17 Feb 2015 08:40 - 56674 of 81564

backfire on whom?

MaxK - 17 Feb 2015 08:43 - 56675 of 81564

The power elite c, who else?

Think Thornberry.

MaxK - 17 Feb 2015 08:46 - 56676 of 81564

the horror, the horror


cynic - 17 Feb 2015 08:47 - 56677 of 81564

wtf is/was thornberry?

MaxK - 17 Feb 2015 08:59 - 56678 of 81564

A typical everyday millionaire labour luvvy hypocrite mp, soon to be dispatched to the wilderness.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30139832

cynic - 17 Feb 2015 09:22 - 56679 of 81564

oh her ...... a very stupid and instantly forgettable storm in a teacup

ExecLine - 17 Feb 2015 09:37 - 56680 of 81564



I thought this cartoon was utterly brilliant and serves to put some delightful humour and scorn into the 'no receipts - observe the behaviour and attitudes of politicians' affair currently being displayed in the media in the pre-election war between the parties.

Not only do they Ed Balls and Ed Miliband bang in their expenses claims for £hundreds of pounds year after year, without receipted substantiation so as to recoup every last miserly penny and more besides, but they also roll their properties to avoid CGT like the best of them:

Quote:

Mr Miliband met Miss Thornton in 2002. In the following years, they owned separate flats. He originally had an apartment on Chalcot Square but sold this for £342,000 in 2005, before buying a flat on nearby Chalcot Road about a year later for £648,500.

It is not known where Mr Miliband, then 36, lived in the intervening months.

But Miss Thornton owned a flat in Maida Vale. This was sold for £680,000 in March 2008, with Miss Thornton paying no capital gains tax. A Labour spokesman has said this is because it was her primary residence.

Yet when Mr Miliband sold his flat on Chalcot Road for £740,000 in December 2009, he did not pay capital gains tax either, as he claimed this was his primary residence. This is despite the fact that five months earlier Miss Thornton – an environmental law expert on around £200,000 a year – had bought for £1.6 million the family home near Hampstead Heath where they now live. She had also given birth to their first son Daniel earlier that year, in June 2009.

They were able to avoid the tax in part because they were unmarried. Mr Miliband and Miss Thornton became engaged in 2010 and married a year later.

Miss Thornton, however, is still registered as the sole owner of their four-bedroom Victorian property for reasons that are unclear.

Tory MP Andrew Bridgen said Mr Miliband’s family’s deed of variation was clearly designed to cut inheritance tax and condemned the Labour leader’s denial of this. He added: ‘Ed Miliband should now publish this deed of variation that he is currently hiding away and be as open about his own tax affairs as he demands others to be. The public can then judge for themselves.’

cynic - 17 Feb 2015 10:33 - 56681 of 81564

this whole board has completely gone to sleep

for sure the market itself is surprisingly (be)calm(ed) given the continuing unrest in ukraine + greece, but it also shows just how much input came from GF, DB and Hays (hope he hasn't fallen off his yacht)

VICTIM - 17 Feb 2015 10:45 - 56682 of 81564

I wonder if Hays just didn't want the continual hassle what with the Election so near . He may be quite an activist on the Cons part.
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