Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

the low oil price has totally fucked scotland and it would be totally bankrupt unless bankrolled from london

That statement from fred on little englanders is somewhat a misnomer in
this case after all its the scots that want to be little scoties..

So be it!



EU council president: it's hard Brexit or no Brexit at all

Donald Tusk scotches Boris Johnson’s argument that the UK could strike a better deal with the EU after Brexit


Jennifer Rankin in Brussels and Heather Stewart

Friday 14 October 2016 06.59 BST



More: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/13/its-hard-brexit-or-no-brexit-at-all-says-eu-council-president

The Europeans seemed more concerned with us leaving than we do.

I'm resigned to the fact that there will be no deal on the single market when we leave and anything better than that is a bonus.

It really isn't the end of the world not being in the single market and over time deals will be done that will compensate for it. These may be with the EU itself (if it survives) and/or the rest of the world.

Deals at what prices?

I forgot at Marmite prices.

For those who haven't already read it, here is an interesting summary:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-inflation-idUKKCN12D1SZ?feedType=nl&feedName=ukmorningdigest&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK%20Morning%20Digest%202016-10-14&utm_term=UK%20Morning%20Digest

At a better bloody price than we've had with the EU for the past 40 odd years.

Fred , the pound goes down then it goes up and then it goes down and then it goes up etc etc.

Just the natural order of things.

Inflation is good, within reason.

ZIRP is killing everything, except the tossers who sunk the whole shooting match.

Dil,


"When my master adopted the Panglossian view of the universe I used no arguments that might cloud his serenity."

Spot on Dil. The pound is the lowest for 35 years, so 35 years ago the pound was lower than it is now, did the sky fall in then, no of course it didn't. The pound strengthened from there just as it will from wherever the low point is reached in this cycle.
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We are powerless to harness nature!

May as well cop out.

certainly it has been shown that gov't intervention cannot stop currency fluctuations
by and large, exchange rates are driven more by sentiment and impetus than by logic

the recovery in oil prices similarly, as can be seen at the moment

Brexit regret:6% of Leavers regret vote + 4% are undecided.. Enough to have changed the outcome of the referendum.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/10/daily-chart-6?fsrc=scn/tw_ec/brexit_regret

No one asked me , polls again what a load of rubbish .

A bit like the recent referendum.

No that was democracy something you wouldn't understand ,we voted OUT !!! hooray .. I can't wait ..

Bullshit of the purest ray serene!


Supposedly a 28000 sample, but they don't say what the breakdown was (NW1)?

About time the B@stards for the EU ( especially "Tusk" ) stop interfering with the UK brexit and trying to destabilize the outcome

UK PM May rejects suggestion by EU's Tusk that Brexit may not happen - spokeswoman

LONDON, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Britain is committed to leaving the European Union, a spokeswoman for Prime Minister Theresa May said on Friday, slapping down a suggestion from European Council President Donald Tusk that the country might ultimately change its mind.

Tusk said on Thursday that Britain might ultimately decide not to leave the EU as it will not offer London any softer terms than a damaging "hard Brexit".

"The prime minister has been very clear ... that the British people have made their decision and we are now going to get on with that, with taking the UK out of the EU and on making the most of the opportunities ahead," the spokeswoman said.

She also said May planned to have held substantive bilateral meetings with the leaders of the other 27 European Union countries by the time she attends a European Council meeting in December.