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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 12:28 - 568 of 21973

Oh dear ...

The company recorded a net loss of $9.83 billion, or $1.99 a share, in the fourth quarter. In the same period last year, the company reported a profit of $5.13 billion, or $1.03 per share.

Citi's top line took a big hit. The company reported revenue of $7.2 billion for the quarter, down 70 percent from $23.8 billion a year earlier.

The results were far worse than forecast. Analysts had expected the company to report a loss of $1 a share on revenue of $10.64 billion, according to analysts surveyed by earnings tracker Thomson Financial.

spitfire43 - 15 Jan 2008 15:55 - 569 of 21973

Citi's figures are hard to comprehend, unless I have misread them, a 4th quarter Subprime writedown of $18 billion, consumer credit costs of $4 billion which gives a loss for the quarter of $9.8 billion.

Thank god I had gone to a cash position, I will await February and the UK banks figures with interest, I just hope they have allowed enough in writedowns already.

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 15:59 - 570 of 21973

i shall try to sit tight with what i have ..... glad i sold IEC this morning ..... a bid for RIO and/or XTA would come in handy!

2517GEORGE - 15 Jan 2008 16:08 - 571 of 21973

spitfire43 ----- I would not be surprised if the mainstream UK banks surprised on the upside, imo BARC 470p ( my preferred choice), LLOY 410p, RBS 397p(although with reservations) and HBOS 649p all look as if they are pricing in a worst case scenario.
2517

spitfire43 - 15 Jan 2008 16:08 - 572 of 21973

Good luck with a bid Cynic.

Have you been shorting any companies recently. I'm still keeping an eye on SOLA, but they have been rising against logic, made a note this morning to short FCCN, but events overtook me.

spitfire43 - 15 Jan 2008 16:12 - 573 of 21973

2517GEORGE - I hope you are right, I'm keeping a close eye on RBS, looking for a good entrance price. But as I can see the UK Banks haven't written off that much, compared to US and European banks.

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 16:13 - 574 of 21973

no ..... no cojones! ...... hard to believe that SOLA is holding up, but then so is PVCS

trouble with shorting is that one tends to do it when sp has already tumbled, and bear squeezes can be fearsome ..... WPP looks a good candidate though

spitfire43 - 15 Jan 2008 16:18 - 575 of 21973

I can understand PVCS holding up, they already have a profit making business, I wouldn't mind a holding in them in the future. But SOLA seem to be built on a mountain of debt.

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 16:31 - 576 of 21973

all very contrary, but sp just not seem to want to drop .... have a look at the chart

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 16:43 - 577 of 21973

don't like saying it, but Dow looks as though it may finish -300 and more ...... that gets scary

Falcothou - 15 Jan 2008 17:54 - 578 of 21973

FTSE bounced from 6000 along with DOW from 12750

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 17:59 - 579 of 21973

unfortunately Dow is currently 12565

Falcothou - 15 Jan 2008 18:07 - 580 of 21973

Apologies, 12500, I'm numerically dyslexic.

Falcothou - 15 Jan 2008 18:08 - 581 of 21973

Did it again! Meant 12550 need to get away from the screen!

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 18:29 - 582 of 21973

i think you're making up numbers as you go along - lol!

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 21:07 - 583 of 21973

12500 is where Dow finished (-275) ..... looking very bleak for London again tomorrow

cynic - 15 Jan 2008 21:32 - 584 of 21973

breaking news ..... Intel figures now out and hated .... Dow after hours trading dumps a further 60 .......

that's ridiculous as the numbers are really not that terrible at all, or not that i can see

Falcothou - 15 Jan 2008 21:56 - 585 of 21973

Even gold has dropped! Is there no safe port in a storm? Is this the end of Capitalism, the onset of a Great Depression , a changing of the guard or a great buying opportunity ?

steveo - 15 Jan 2008 22:00 - 586 of 21973

futures 12431, thought it might bounce after hours when at 12500 and got caught out. Never bet against the trend, was that rule 1??

Was well up on gold at 3pm as well, that's gone pete tong, although managed to keep some profit. Might get its retracement to around 860ish now, and then off it will go again.

Falcothou - 16 Jan 2008 07:51 - 587 of 21973

Intel, the worlds biggest chipmaker, disappointed Wall Street on Tuesday with fourth-quarter profits and sales below expectations and a cautious outlook for 2008. The company blamed problems in its non-core memory chip business for exerting a drag on its results. Its shares fell 14 per cent in after-hours trading to $19.50 its worse-than expected figures spooking the market a day after IBM had kicked off the reporting season with strong earnings, says the FT.
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