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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Stan - 23 Feb 2015 21:10 - 56904 of 81564

Ifs, buts and maybe's, anything but discuss or comment on the right wing corrupt activities.

MaxK - 23 Feb 2015 21:12 - 56905 of 81564

Yep! And lets forget about the lefty wing corruption.

Stan - 23 Feb 2015 21:21 - 56906 of 81564

Which is?

MaxK - 23 Feb 2015 23:33 - 56907 of 81564


Jeremy Clarkson is not an oaf or a buffoon for describing the welfare safari that is Liverpool 100% correctly


Monday 23 February 2015


Share this article with your comrades in revolutionary capitalism



- Tom Winnifrith

http://tomwinnifrith.com/articles/6049/jeremy-clarkson-is-not-an-oaf-or-a-buffoon-for-describing-the-welfare-safari-that-is-liverpool-100-correctly





A balding and obese individual who turns out to be the Lord Mayor of the welfare safari crime hotspot known as Liverpool has branded Jeremy Clarkson as an “oaf and a buffoon” and for “stigmatising” the post-industrial Merseyside wasteland, saying “People up there earn less, die more quickly, have fewer jobs and live in houses that are worth the square root of sod all.”

As it happens on this matter Clarkson is 100% factually correct. He is not stigmatising the folks in Liverpool he is giving an accurate assessment of life up there. Clarkson may or may not be an oaf and a buffoon but his latest statement does not prove that matter either way because he is simply telling the truth.

The reaction of the lard-bucket Lord Mayor (has he ever had a real job in his life?) is part of the victim self-pitying culture of large parts of the Grim North, but notably the slum that is Liverpool. Everything bad is some-one else’s fault. Anyone who criticises them is a Southern bigot. The Government should spend more money (earned by hard working folks in the South) to make their lives better.

By the Money Tree approach to what were once great Industrial powerhouses like Glasgow and Liverpool has failed. The more the taxpayer spends encouraging more healthy lifestyles the more the folks eat shite, drink and smoke and die younger. The more we throw at Government rejuvenation initiatives the less desire there is among the population for engaging in real enterprise, other than – in the case of Liverpool – industrial scale petty crime. And the more we chuck at the welfare state the less the folks in the Northern slums actually go out and seek real jobs.

Clarkson’s only crime is that in assessing the sorry state of Liverpool he did not go far enough.

Chris Carson - 24 Feb 2015 03:51 - 56908 of 81564

Tom (Twat) Winnifrith eh, what a nice chap. The George Clooney of the Pizzaria not. To call him an ugly baxxxxrd would be polite.

Just a couple of opinions or so from his observers :-

Give it up, you miserable failure. Failed as a fund manager. Failed as a journalist - now unemployable in the trade, hence the pizzeria. Now running a constant vendetta against a company whose shares you recommended last year were at sell at 7p. Resigned from nine different boards, you claim to hold no shares, but you have a friend who is shorting Quindell - EK, would that be? Winnifrith, you look worn out. Take a break. I hope you get the ass sued off you one more time.

Market Guru or Market Gnu? You Decide...

Peter Webb, the manager of the two worst-performing funds of 2012, described his frustrations in trying to sell many of the "illiquid" positions he inherited on the portfolios.

Former Unicorn CEO Webb took over the management of The Share Centre's £6.6m Smaller Companies Growth fund & £12m Smaller Companies Gold fund stating "I inherited two falling daggers"...Prior to Webb taking over, the funds were run by T1ps Investment Management's Tom Winnifrith...


Market Guru or Market Gnu? You Decide...Cont...

This is what one unfortunate investor in Tom Winnifrith's funds had to say...

"I invested a significant amount of money into Tom Winnifrith's funds in the misguided belief that he was a sensible, plain-speaking chap who was competent & would do well for his investors. I should have smelt a rat when he opened a novelty pizza shop!

So I too am looking at 5-figure losses & I wish Mr Webb the very best of luck in salvaging something from the wreckage.


What an attention seeking wanker :D :D: D

Chris Carson - 24 Feb 2015 04:24 - 56909 of 81564

Clarkson accused Liverpool Echo journalists of being “f•••tards” after they attacked comments he had made in his Sunday Times column.


— Jeremy Clarkson (@JeremyClarkson)
February 22, 2015

People of Liverpool. Read what I actually wrote. Including the bits the f•••tards on the local rag left out. Shocking journalism.

His column at first praised Liverpool, saying that – in contrast to previous incidents he had experienced in the city – a recent visit had been “very agreeable”: “There was a lot of postmodern urban-chic architecture and many museums, hotels and waterfront cafes. It looked really good. I liked it.”

However, he then went on to complain about the service in his hotel, adding: “Ordering [the rosé wine] Whispering Angel in Liverpool is like a Liverpudlian strolling into the Savoy at teatime, in a shell suit, and demanding seven pints of vodka. He’s going to be shown the door. And I should have been shown the door too.”


He then went on to discuss the north-south divide, saying: “Closer to home we have soft-living, champagne-soaked southerners imagining that they know what’s best for northern cities such as Liverpool. ‘My dear fellow, why don’t you simply give up heroin and start a book club? Because if you don’t, we’ll cut your benefits.’

“We go up there and say, “Look what we’ve given you, Gary: a Tracey Emin hotel and slavery museum, all full of Ed Miliband bumper-sticker slogans. Aren’t you grateful?” But Gary isn’t grateful because he doesn’t like Primrose Hill sensibilities and bloody mood lighting.”

He added: “The north of England has never been more different from the south of England.


“People up there earn less, die more quickly, have fewer jobs and live in houses that are worth the square root of sod all.”

On Monday Liverpool’s mayor Joe Anderson waded into the fray, defending his city as BBC executives arrived for the BBC Worldwide Showcase 2015: “It is amazing that the BBC chose, after a warm reception last year, to come back again this year for the showcase. Yet in contrast to that, this buffoon – Mr Clarkson – has made these comments and the BBC continue to have him on their payroll.”


In addition to his tweet attacking the Echo, Clarkson retweeted followers’ supportive messages:


— Lee B Jackson (@leejako)
February 22, 2015

@JeremyClarkson were not bothered about the local rag Jeremy, your still a legend and I love Top Gear. Liverpool Echo is notorious for it!


— Philip Sinclair (@PhilipSinclair)
February 22, 2015

@LivEchonews @JeremyClarkson rubbish journalism as usual from a poor over priced garbage paper. Read his whole article instead of snippets


— jo abrams (@jojobings)
February 22, 2015

@LivEchonews @JeremyClarkson used to love the echo, how crap you have become. Shame on you


— john dodd (@JpdDodd)
February 22, 2015

@JeremyClarkson Yes, have to agree with you! The Liverpool Echo is a bit of a bile-spewing militant socialist foghorn!

TANKER - 24 Feb 2015 07:38 - 56910 of 81564

if you read todays tele you will see why I did not mention straw its all their today
the man should be charged with fraud using is position to get a 75m contract for is
future employee. it stinks ..

did you watch sky news on the papers ,they both said rifkind is stupid and should never have been on any comitttee

cynic - 24 Feb 2015 08:08 - 56911 of 81564

BOTH of them were singularly naive
listening to the wireless yesterday, there was an interview with one of the specialist lobbying companies
they said the direction of the questioning was so blatant, it should have been immediately obvious to where it was leading

MaxK - 24 Feb 2015 08:22 - 56912 of 81564

They think they are infallible.

Fred1new - 24 Feb 2015 08:24 - 56913 of 81564

Exec.

Didn't realise you are such a sensitive little chap.


Fred1new - 24 Feb 2015 08:26 - 56914 of 81564

Well, you can't suggest Jack and Mike don't support business.





Manuel, may understand why I don't vote!

TANKER - 24 Feb 2015 08:28 - 56915 of 81564

if can not live on a mp wage then resign or do not become a mp
its that simple .
in many ways this as nothing to do with gov its just plain greed
and they should be kicked out and lose all the benefits

cynic - 24 Feb 2015 08:31 - 56916 of 81564

i understand, but still think it's a cop out

Fred1new - 24 Feb 2015 08:32 - 56917 of 81564

What impressed me is that the pair suggested fees of over £5000 a day, while the minimum wage raise is suggested to be RAISED by 20 p per hour lifting it to £6.70 an hour.

Congratulations all round.

Stan - 24 Feb 2015 08:35 - 56918 of 81564

"cynic - 24 Feb 2015 08:08 - 56914 of 56918

BOTH of them were singularly naive"

Change that to "singularly to greedy" and then I think you will be nearer the mark.

cynic - 24 Feb 2015 08:38 - 56919 of 81564

ah but did you also hear about CofE
bishops call for "living wage" to be made "minimum wage" but still pay many of their workers minimum wage
hypocrisy starts at home :-)

cynic - 24 Feb 2015 08:39 - 56920 of 81564

i'll stick with naive thank you stan, or bloody stupid if you insist

Stan - 24 Feb 2015 08:48 - 56921 of 81564

Oh no you won't Alf, it's to greedy or nothing -):

Yes, and as the bloke on the street corner selling papers would shout, standard... double standards!

Fred1new - 24 Feb 2015 08:55 - 56922 of 81564

Manuel,

You are a knowledgeable man,

Do MP members of the various House of Commons committees get paid in payments get paid for their attendance at those meetings?

If so how much?

I have tried to find out but struggling!

(The difference between the MPs and the Church over Basic wage is that the Church admitted their mistakes and held their hands up and addressing it.

Mistake not hypocrisy.

A large number of conservative MP voted against the bill to introduce the Minimum Wage.

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MaxK - 24 Feb 2015 09:10 - 56923 of 81564

Desperate times ..



Lord Ashcroft: Ukip plunge in aftermath of Channel 4 programme

UK Independence Party drops 5 points in wake of Channel 4 docudrama and offensive comments from councillor



By Holly Watt, Whitehall Editor

4:45PM GMT 23 Feb 2015


Comments2419 Comments


Ukip have been hit hard in the polls, falling five points in a week, according to polling carried out by the Conservative peer Lord Ashcroft.


The party’s support felt to 11 per cent of the vote, the lowest share since the former Tory donor began analysing voting intentions.


Ukip’s poll slump comes after Ofcom received thousands of complaints following a docudrama by Channel 4, Ukip: The First 100 Days, which imagined the party leader Nigel Farage as the Prime Minister.


A Ukip councillor was also expelled from the party after saying she had "a problem" with black people, and making other offensive remarks.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11430186/Lord-Ashcroft-Ukip-plunge-in-aftermath-of-Channel-4-programme.html
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