Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

"cynic - 24 Feb 2015 08:08 - 56914 of 56918

BOTH of them were singularly naive"

Change that to "singularly to greedy" and then I think you will be nearer the mark.

ah but did you also hear about CofE
bishops call for "living wage" to be made "minimum wage" but still pay many of their workers minimum wage
hypocrisy starts at home :-)

i'll stick with naive thank you stan, or bloody stupid if you insist

Oh no you won't Alf, it's to greedy or nothing -):

Yes, and as the bloke on the street corner selling papers would shout, standard... double standards!

Manuel,

You are a knowledgeable man,

Do MP members of the various House of Commons committees get paid in payments get paid for their attendance at those meetings?

If so how much?

I have tried to find out but struggling!

(The difference between the MPs and the Church over Basic wage is that the Church admitted their mistakes and held their hands up and addressing it.

Mistake not hypocrisy.

A large number of conservative MP voted against the bill to introduce the Minimum Wage.

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Desperate times ..



Lord Ashcroft: Ukip plunge in aftermath of Channel 4 programme

UK Independence Party drops 5 points in wake of Channel 4 docudrama and offensive comments from councillor



By Holly Watt, Whitehall Editor

4:45PM GMT 23 Feb 2015


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Ukip have been hit hard in the polls, falling five points in a week, according to polling carried out by the Conservative peer Lord Ashcroft.


The party’s support felt to 11 per cent of the vote, the lowest share since the former Tory donor began analysing voting intentions.


Ukip’s poll slump comes after Ofcom received thousands of complaints following a docudrama by Channel 4, Ukip: The First 100 Days, which imagined the party leader Nigel Farage as the Prime Minister.


A Ukip councillor was also expelled from the party after saying she had "a problem" with black people, and making other offensive remarks.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11430186/Lord-Ashcroft-Ukip-plunge-in-aftermath-of-Channel-4-programme.html

Found some of the information:

The salary entitlement of a Select Committee Chair is £81,936 (this figure comprises of MP's salary of £67,060 and additional salary for Select Committee Chairs of £14,876) from 1 April 2014.

It seems Rifkind is less than sensitive about his salary and remember the salary does not take into consideration his "expenses" and "perks" he of course thinks as a man of his "professional" standing and "ability" is entitled to.

It is a little "amusing" to see him chairman of a committee which may investigate "Stings and Scams".

He is as incompetent as Dodgy Dave and George who have been trying to tighten up on Tax evasion and avoidance techniques for nearly 5 years, but unable to find the screwdriver to tighten the screws on their mates.

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Get ye gone!

Ashcroft is not a honest person a tax evader so who gives a toss about him he is scum . any one not paying their taxes should have no say in gov .
Ashcroft the dishonest not a lord a scumbag

fred - to the best of my knowledge, MPs just get paid a salary .... in fact, i'm sure that must be so, as some MPs have a very poor attendance record


btw, i caught a little snippet on the subject of minimum and living wage .....
if i understood correctly, the minimum wage is set by some committee which looks at a level which it feels can be afforded without putting jobs at risk - ie creating a situation of diminishing returns

rifkind the liar I do not get a salary . the man is a clown and should now be investigated on is tax affairs

£67k a year?

This is 'a bit of a pittance' these days for a top guy, IMHO. Anyone who believes otherwise is quite naive.

In a meeting with the reporters, Sir Malcolm said: “You’d be surprised how much free time I have. I spend a lot of time reading, I spend a lot of time walking. Because I’m not a minister or full-time working for one person I can sort out my day”.

Mr Howells, who served as a Foreign Office minister under Tony Blair, said he was “bewildered” by Sir Malcolm’s claims and said he should step down.

ex the man is a liar I do not get a salary I have to charge 5000 a day to live

Who says an MP is a top guy?

By what standard??

if you can not live on the wage your job pays then find another job that does
but this man is a mp who stated he does not get a salary has loads of spare time
no bosses and a free agent . it was all bloody lies . my taxes pays scumlike him and I am not happy . vote ukip get these bastards out

Tanker.

With a lot of what you say, I do think your take on it is correct.

Tons of people, in politics (and banking) particularly and 'the professions' in general, are just taking the piss. The legal and health professions contain some of the worst.

Their 'con' is usually based on one falsehood:

They would have us believe they are working in our best interests. Actually, they really want our lives and affairs to be made complicated and not simple so they can levy more and more of their phenominally high hourly charges sorting our 'stuff' out.

eg. Our taxation system is made and kept deliberately complicated so as to fund the charges of all the chartered accountants who advise us and do our tax returns.

On the criminal and civil side of the law, each side needs a lawyer. The law isn't to give us justice. it is made to keep the fees high for the defending and prosecuting lawyers.

Can't argue with any of that, spot on EL.
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EL - it's the legislators who keep changing the tax rules and the accountants thereafter who (have to) work their way through it all to minimise your tax liabilities

the more complex the rules are made and the more loopholes the legislators try to close, the more others are opened elsewhere .... not quite fair, but near enough

ex correct its all about looking after the rich .
back to rifkind the man as no shame any normal person would be in hiding

the tax system should the rate of tax and you pay those rates no loop holes