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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 14 Oct 2016 14:17 - 5695 of 12628

In or out hard or soft she doesn't really know .

grannyboy - 14 Oct 2016 14:59 - 5696 of 12628

Its a load of boll**, the oil price was nearly double what it is now a couple
of years ago, meaning the price at the pumps were also higher.

Everytime that inflation is below 2% the BOE have to write to the chancellor
explaining why, inflation between 2-4% is quite exceptable.

At the moment the fall in the gbp is the only thing that the remainers can
attack the Brexit with, because most other indicators are favourable.

MaxK - 15 Oct 2016 11:42 - 5697 of 12628

Welcome to Paris, city of light.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-14/

Chris Carson - 16 Oct 2016 18:52 - 5698 of 12628

Street fighting, vandalism and sexual assault: Mayor of picturesque German ski town begs for help to tackle an 'explosive refugee crime wave'
Police chief says refugees are now 'in charge' in Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Described fights and how Africans have taken over in Abrams complex
Led mayor Dr Sigrid Meierhofer to beg Bavaria to intervene in the town
She says 'public order and security' are in jeopardy without prompt action
By ALLAN HALL IN BERLIN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 11:47, 16 October 2016 | UPDATED: 14:01, 16 October 2016


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3840940/Street-fighting-vandalism-sexual-assault-Mayor-picturesque-German-ski-town-begs-help-tackle-explosive-refugee-crime-wave.html#ixzz4NGrh50E1
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The German mayor has begged for intervention over the 'explosive situation' caused by a refugee crimewave in the picturesque ski town.
Police say refugees brawl in the streets and vandalise public property in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, and residents allege they are responsible for serious sexual assaults.
Dr Sigrid Meierhofer has now written about the 'massive problems' in a letter begging for help from Bavarian politician Maria Els, which was leaked to the press.


The mayor, from the centre-left SPD party, says she will need to take action 'to secure public safety and order' after a series of public clashes with police.
The Abrams centre, a former US Army site that now houses around 250 asylum seekers, is also affecting tourism and the health of residents, she claims.
'There has been an increasingly worsening situation in recent weeks around the registration centre Abrams,' wrote the mayor, in what was seen as a cry for help.


In the previous year it was mostly occupied by Syrian families but now, around 150 of the residents are Africans, 80 per cent of them unaccompanied young men.
Mayor Meierhofer makes it plain that the current occupiers of the building have become 'problematic' and said she is increasingly concerned about 'public order'.
Curfews on migrants entering certain areas, like the spa park in town, have been implemented in the past few weeks.
Police officers have responded to more incidents in the past six weeks in and around the centre than in the past 12 months put together.


Deputy police chief Thomas Holzer recently said: 'The blacks are in charge,' as he described the constant clashes with asylum seekers at the centre.
He went on: 'There are brawls, fights and property damage. The blacks occupy the best wi-fi places, choose who sleeps in what room.
'The situtation is a problem for us and causes some concern. In September, we recorded a quarter of our annual operations.'
Repeat offenders at the centre have been moved to some of the other 11 facilities in the area, but the problems persist.
Local social media speaks gravely of sexual assaults of the worst kind taking place in the accommodation centre, but Holzer said he cannot confirm this.


Frau Meierhofer explained in her letter that the complaints from locals were accumulating and that they were not from the far-right or other extremist groups.
She writes: 'They are expressing their trials and tribulations to us. Massive problems with refugees in Garmisch-Partenkirchen,' according to the local Merkur newspaper.
A local official was outraged that the letter, and the deputy police chief, identified black Africans for causing the trouble, saying 'stereotyping' was unacceptable.
But the mayor's office insisted she was telling it like it is, not as bureaucrats elsewhere would like it to be.


comments:-

The Mayor is from the SPD, a party which has been the driving force behind Merkel's migrant magnetism. She has only her extreme left beliefs and her own party to blame, thus should just resign and let someone who has no blood on their hands sort out this utter anarchy.

What saddens me the most,is when I visit the once wonderful centres of European Culture,a recent visit to Paris,made me feel I was in Khartoum or Addis Ababa...they were everywhere, hassling us begging or selling cheap useless trinkets ...yet everyday more and more are brought into Europe by our own leaders in the way of rescue,2 or 3 miles from the Lybian coast,and then transported 200miles into Europe.... This is the Beginning of the end of our Glorious and Free European Civilisation..these rescue ships carry within their holds a dark tide of humanity and with them the seeds of our own extinction !!

Unrest in Europe, too many do-gooders shutting their eyes to the truth, its happening now.
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Just watched a BBC report from the slum camp with the reporter in the middle of the police firing tear gas at these immigrants. What are the BBC trying to prove...we should be watching it with a tear in our eyes?

There is a simple solution - just give them Lily Allen's address - she will gladly welcome them all to her place!



grannyboy - 16 Oct 2016 19:16 - 5699 of 12628

And in the meantime this country's authority's are in Calais at the 'jungle'
processing those ILLEGAL immigrants that now have the right to come to
the UK due to the ILLEGAL entry by their (usually only) male parents who
were able to smuggle their way into the UK due to the non existent borders
that now prolifricate across the western world.

Claret Dragon - 17 Oct 2016 07:17 - 5700 of 12628

As feared the result of the Referendum will not be implemented.

It was made pretty clear in the debates what it meant from both sides.

Now the certain charlatan's are determined to dress up the result how they see fit.

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2016 08:51 - 5701 of 12628

Which charlatans are you thinking of.

Claret Dragon - 17 Oct 2016 09:13 - 5702 of 12628

All of them really are Charlatans.

iturama - 17 Oct 2016 09:43 - 5703 of 12628

Hang around, it is just a continuation of project fear. The EU doesn't like referenda that goes against it. It demands that it be done again. Same with those in this country that can't get over it. The longer it goes on, the worse it will get. Personally, I wish they would get on with it but recognise it takes time to prepare. Who's worried about a 10% tarriff on exports to the EU? The £ has already lost more than that so British goods will actually be cheaper in the Euro zone, although that may not last.
Look at what is happening in Europe, it is worth putting up with some inconvenience to avoid that. We have put up with a lot worse in our history.

grannyboy - 17 Oct 2016 09:44 - 5704 of 12628

I'm still baffled by the actions of T.May making the Buffoon BoJo the
foreign secretary?..

Dil - 17 Oct 2016 09:50 - 5705 of 12628

We're leaving don't worry about that and the rubbish being spouted by the EU is due to them realising they will have no leverage during negotiations as the UK is prepared to live outside the single market if that's what it takes.

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2016 10:08 - 5706 of 12628

It.

I remember fortress Britain, the fireworks were marvelous.

=-=-=-==

Read https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/15/what-should-we-do-about-russia-aleppo-ukraine-cyber-baltic-vladimir-putin


It may interest you.

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2016 10:08 - 5707 of 12628

.

Fred1new - 18 Oct 2016 14:51 - 5708 of 12628

Doesn't take much.

mentor - 18 Oct 2016 22:11 - 5709 of 12628

Will it finally be dismantle?
what else the do gooders will try in order to keep it open

Calais Refugee Camp Faces Closure After French Court Rejects Appeal

LONDON (Alliance News) - The Jungle refugee camp could be closed imminently after a French court rejected
an appeal from aid groups to delay the clearance

grannyboy - 19 Oct 2016 07:58 - 5710 of 12628

There is other 'future' jungle camps being established along the French coast
to replace the Calais jungle as we speak.

cynic - 19 Oct 2016 08:18 - 5711 of 12628

why is there no discussion in france as to why these refugees were allowed to set up "home" in france in the first place?
assuredly it wasn't the first safe refuge that they reached, and under eu rules that is where they were meant to stay

Dil - 22 Oct 2016 09:48 - 5712 of 12628

Leanne Woods latest politician spouting rubbish on BBC Breakfast over Brexit ahead of the Plaid Cymru party conference.

Another case of "of course we respect the will of the people BUT ..."

And that's why you and Labour are losing voter's in their droves to UKIP in Wales because you just aren't listening to what people want.

grannyboy - 22 Oct 2016 12:40 - 5713 of 12628

That Leanne Woods was on the Daily Politics yesterday, Andrew Neil put her
to task but not as much as he could and should've..

Its plainly obvious that the PRO-EU remoaners, SNP, LibDems, Labour, Plaid
Cymru are all ganging together, and its these despicable crew that has invented
the 'HARD' and 'soft' pro-eu speak..

And of course not forgetting the mega PRO-EU SYCOPHANT, more pro-eu
then even the 'boy' clegg, or little timmy farron, or Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP,
NO its Ken(get the drinks in) CLARKE......

Fred1new - 22 Oct 2016 12:43 - 5714 of 12628

Dil.

They were/are poking their fingers up to the what they as a disconnected political "leadership".

Also, other than "out of the EU" and scapegoating "immigrants" or "them over there "don't know what they are voting for.

The costs of being out of EU has not been properly quantified and others words it is still a pig in a poke.
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