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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

iturama - 17 Oct 2016 09:43 - 5703 of 12628

Hang around, it is just a continuation of project fear. The EU doesn't like referenda that goes against it. It demands that it be done again. Same with those in this country that can't get over it. The longer it goes on, the worse it will get. Personally, I wish they would get on with it but recognise it takes time to prepare. Who's worried about a 10% tarriff on exports to the EU? The £ has already lost more than that so British goods will actually be cheaper in the Euro zone, although that may not last.
Look at what is happening in Europe, it is worth putting up with some inconvenience to avoid that. We have put up with a lot worse in our history.

grannyboy - 17 Oct 2016 09:44 - 5704 of 12628

I'm still baffled by the actions of T.May making the Buffoon BoJo the
foreign secretary?..

Dil - 17 Oct 2016 09:50 - 5705 of 12628

We're leaving don't worry about that and the rubbish being spouted by the EU is due to them realising they will have no leverage during negotiations as the UK is prepared to live outside the single market if that's what it takes.

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2016 10:08 - 5706 of 12628

It.

I remember fortress Britain, the fireworks were marvelous.

=-=-=-==

Read https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/15/what-should-we-do-about-russia-aleppo-ukraine-cyber-baltic-vladimir-putin


It may interest you.

Fred1new - 17 Oct 2016 10:08 - 5707 of 12628

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Fred1new - 18 Oct 2016 14:51 - 5708 of 12628

Doesn't take much.

mentor - 18 Oct 2016 22:11 - 5709 of 12628

Will it finally be dismantle?
what else the do gooders will try in order to keep it open

Calais Refugee Camp Faces Closure After French Court Rejects Appeal

LONDON (Alliance News) - The Jungle refugee camp could be closed imminently after a French court rejected
an appeal from aid groups to delay the clearance

grannyboy - 19 Oct 2016 07:58 - 5710 of 12628

There is other 'future' jungle camps being established along the French coast
to replace the Calais jungle as we speak.

cynic - 19 Oct 2016 08:18 - 5711 of 12628

why is there no discussion in france as to why these refugees were allowed to set up "home" in france in the first place?
assuredly it wasn't the first safe refuge that they reached, and under eu rules that is where they were meant to stay

Dil - 22 Oct 2016 09:48 - 5712 of 12628

Leanne Woods latest politician spouting rubbish on BBC Breakfast over Brexit ahead of the Plaid Cymru party conference.

Another case of "of course we respect the will of the people BUT ..."

And that's why you and Labour are losing voter's in their droves to UKIP in Wales because you just aren't listening to what people want.

grannyboy - 22 Oct 2016 12:40 - 5713 of 12628

That Leanne Woods was on the Daily Politics yesterday, Andrew Neil put her
to task but not as much as he could and should've..

Its plainly obvious that the PRO-EU remoaners, SNP, LibDems, Labour, Plaid
Cymru are all ganging together, and its these despicable crew that has invented
the 'HARD' and 'soft' pro-eu speak..

And of course not forgetting the mega PRO-EU SYCOPHANT, more pro-eu
then even the 'boy' clegg, or little timmy farron, or Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP,
NO its Ken(get the drinks in) CLARKE......

Fred1new - 22 Oct 2016 12:43 - 5714 of 12628

Dil.

They were/are poking their fingers up to the what they as a disconnected political "leadership".

Also, other than "out of the EU" and scapegoating "immigrants" or "them over there "don't know what they are voting for.

The costs of being out of EU has not been properly quantified and others words it is still a pig in a poke.

grannyboy - 22 Oct 2016 12:50 - 5715 of 12628

More BS from the resident FOOL little fred..

Its not about the cost of being out of the EU, Its about WHAT ITS COSTING US
to BE IN the EU.

As to scapegoating 'immigrants', The only immigrants that should be allowed
to come, are those that have the skills that the country needs, and curry chefs
shouldn't come anywhere near gaining entry, neither are 'skilled' car washers!!

Fred1new - 22 Oct 2016 12:57 - 5716 of 12628

Granny.

Frightened of losing your job?

Dil - 22 Oct 2016 15:47 - 5717 of 12628

lol that's quite good for you Fred.

Dil - 22 Oct 2016 15:51 - 5718 of 12628

It was not a case of putting two fingers up at the establishment Fred those who voted leave want to leave.

I could argue that those that voted remain were just muppets following the party line that they vote for and their parents voted for and their grand parents voted for etc etc.

Plenty of brain dead Labour/remain voters like that here in Wales.

Dil - 22 Oct 2016 16:10 - 5719 of 12628

And while I'm having rant , that Leanne Woods and her minority party are responsible for millions of wasted tax payers money each year that goes on having to have every bloody road sign in Welsh and English and every letter from councils , government bodies etc having to be sent in both English and Welsh plus we've got a TV channel that nobody watches except for the odd sports match where you can get the commentary in English by pressing the red button.

IMO they should all p*ss off somewhere like Anglesey and declare independence and do the overwhelming majority of us a favour.

Fred1new - 22 Oct 2016 18:05 - 5720 of 12628

Dil,

That is why you live in the 13th county!

poo bear - 23 Oct 2016 06:39 - 5721 of 12628

"....... neither are 'skilled' car washers!!

I note on the complete disappearance of these washers from 3 major Sainsbury Stores in south Essex.

Not that I needed them, I did it myself rather than have them send the money back home to Romania.

Fred1new - 23 Oct 2016 08:54 - 5722 of 12628

Well done.
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