Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

That Leanne Woods was on the Daily Politics yesterday, Andrew Neil put her
to task but not as much as he could and should've..

Its plainly obvious that the PRO-EU remoaners, SNP, LibDems, Labour, Plaid
Cymru are all ganging together, and its these despicable crew that has invented
the 'HARD' and 'soft' pro-eu speak..

And of course not forgetting the mega PRO-EU SYCOPHANT, more pro-eu
then even the 'boy' clegg, or little timmy farron, or Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP,
NO its Ken(get the drinks in) CLARKE......

Dil.

They were/are poking their fingers up to the what they as a disconnected political "leadership".

Also, other than "out of the EU" and scapegoating "immigrants" or "them over there "don't know what they are voting for.

The costs of being out of EU has not been properly quantified and others words it is still a pig in a poke.

More BS from the resident FOOL little fred..

Its not about the cost of being out of the EU, Its about WHAT ITS COSTING US
to BE IN the EU.

As to scapegoating 'immigrants', The only immigrants that should be allowed
to come, are those that have the skills that the country needs, and curry chefs
shouldn't come anywhere near gaining entry, neither are 'skilled' car washers!!

Granny.

Frightened of losing your job?

lol that's quite good for you Fred.

It was not a case of putting two fingers up at the establishment Fred those who voted leave want to leave.

I could argue that those that voted remain were just muppets following the party line that they vote for and their parents voted for and their grand parents voted for etc etc.

Plenty of brain dead Labour/remain voters like that here in Wales.

And while I'm having rant , that Leanne Woods and her minority party are responsible for millions of wasted tax payers money each year that goes on having to have every bloody road sign in Welsh and English and every letter from councils , government bodies etc having to be sent in both English and Welsh plus we've got a TV channel that nobody watches except for the odd sports match where you can get the commentary in English by pressing the red button.

IMO they should all p*ss off somewhere like Anglesey and declare independence and do the overwhelming majority of us a favour.

Dil,

That is why you live in the 13th county!

"....... neither are 'skilled' car washers!!

I note on the complete disappearance of these washers from 3 major Sainsbury Stores in south Essex.

Not that I needed them, I did it myself rather than have them send the money back home to Romania.

Well done.

The jungle eviction won't be the beginning of the end...it'll be the end of the beginning.....as it looks like Dunkirk to me.......

Happiness.

Shock!!Horror!!!

Nissan to build the new Qashqai....IN SUNDERLAND....

THEY LOOK TO BE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT BREXIT!!!!!..

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BREAKING NEWS - UK economy defies fears of quick Brexit hit, grows solidly in Q3
UK Q3 GDP RISES 2.3% ON YEAR, CONSENSUS 2.1%
UK Q3 GDP UP 0.5% ON QUARTER, CONSENSUS 0.3%
UK Q3 GDP UP 0.5% Q/Q; UP 2.3% Y/Y; ABOVE FORECAST
UK 3Q GDP Was Forecast +0.4% On Qtr, +2.1% On Yr
UK Preliminary 3Q GDP +0.5% On Quarter; +2.3% On Year

Britain's economy barely slowed in the third quarter despite the Brexit vote shock, further diminishing the chance of a fresh interest rate cut by the Bank of England next week.
Gross domestic product expanded by 0.5 percent in the July-September period, less rapid than the unusually strong growth of 0.7 percent seen in the second quarter but comfortably above a median forecast of 0.3 percent in a Reuters poll of economists.
Compared with the third quarter of last year, growth picked up to 2.3 percent, the strongest pace in more than a year, according to the preliminary figures from the Office for National Statistics.
"There is little evidence of a pronounced effect in the immediate aftermath of the vote," ONS chief economist Joe Grice said, adding growth was in line with the pattern since 2015.
Supporters of Brexit are likely to say the figures back the claims they made during the referendum campaign that warnings of a big hit to Britain's economy from a vote to leave the EU were little more than scaremongering.
The stronger-than-expected growth in the third quarter was thanks only to the country's dominant services sector which saw rapid growth in film and television production and distribution.
The ONS linked the pickup to strong box office receipts in July when the latest releases in the Jason Bourne and Star Trek series hit the screens along with other blockbusters.
The figures provide the first broad estimate of the size of the hit to Britain's economy from the referendum decision in June to leave the European Union.
Many economists originally expected a 'Leave' vote to push the economy quickly into a shallow recession.
The BoE said as recently as September that the preliminary ONS reading would probably show growth in the third quarter of only 0.2 percent.
The Bank has come under criticism from some Brexit supporters for warning of a big economic hit from a vote to leave the EU. It has predicted a sharp slowing of growth next year as the impact of the referendum is felt more fully.
The central bank is due to decide next week whether to cut interest rates further below their all-time low of 0.25 percent, something it hinted at last month.
But its governor, Mark Carney, suggested on Tuesday that he was concerned about the sharp fall in the value of the pound and how that will push up inflation, further dampening already low expectations of a rate cut on Nov. 3.
A Reuters poll of economists has shown the BoE is not expected to ease policy until early 2017.
Finance minister Philip Hammond will also pay close attention to Thursday's GDP figures.
He is due to announce his first budget plans on Nov. 23 and has suggested he could approve higher levels of public spending if necessary to help the economy cope with the Brexit slowdown.
The ONS said on Thursday that the country’s dominant services sector provided all the growth for the economy in the third quarter, growing by 0.8 percent from the April-June period.
Industrial production, including manufacturing, and construction both contracted, down 0.4 percent and 1.4 percent respectively. The fall in construction was the biggest since the third quarter of 2012.
In August alone, the services sector grew by a monthly 0.2 percent after a strong July when it expanded 0.4 percent, the ONS said, citing its separate index for the sector.
The preliminary GDP data do not include a breakdown of spending and are based on estimates accounting more than half of the overall reading

Yes and expect stronger figures from the MANUFACTUERS/EXPORTERS in
the next quarterly figures due to the benefit of the sterlings fall.

let's hope we're all chuckling in 18 months time ..... further ahead than that is too far

The BBC in their teatime news started off positive on the GDP and the
Nissan report that they intend to build the new qashqai in Sunderland
then they reverted to form by stealing the Labour party ruse that some
cosy deal had been arranged and promises made, but the Labour party
are keeping quiet on the plans that they say they would implement with
the financial sector where they would arrange a sweetheart deal with the
EU, but then it does not surprise you, 99% of those that work in the bbc
are ex guardianista's..

Watch your backs!

http://news.sky.com/video/the-brexit-tapestry-skys-biggest-stitch-up-of-the-story-so-far-10616518

Its a well known fact that after the BBC, Sky comes right up there as
a sycophantic pro-eu brown nosing organisation, they must be pretty miffed
at having to report that Northern Ireland's high court have dismissed a
legal challenge to the Prime minsters power to trigger article50..