bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
superrod
- 10 Jun 2005 14:58
- 5713 of 27111
to be fair to ii. i havent seen a post from him that doesnt come under the banner of debate. i for one ( tho a holder ) will not bury my head in the sand. a day WILL come when this share peaks. as with all shares there will be a day when spleens are vented
Fred1new
- 10 Jun 2005 15:03
- 5714 of 27111
Pisces. Your argument relating for the strength of growth for SEO is similar to that being voiced in regard to the Tech Marketin January-February 2000.
Those with nimble feet got out at that time. I think SEO is unlikely to be similar, but this pudding needs some prooving yet.
bhunt1910
- 10 Jun 2005 15:03
- 5715 of 27111
Superrod - that is your perogative - and I agree wuth you that SEO's day will come (as did BPRG's) - but I personally think that there are many others who are better qualified than me ( and maybe II) who take a more objective view of this share and the market so I will act with my fingers and squelch II - at least until he is more constructive than he is now.
Baza
Fred1new
- 10 Jun 2005 15:06
- 5717 of 27111
bhunt How will youk Know if you squelch him.
Sequestor
- 10 Jun 2005 15:11
- 5718 of 27111
superr- got a bit windy, trying a mayfly down on the brook below us, not a nibble-
indeed I was commenting that 4:1 is good-I am long this thing to see what happens Monday, I have me doubts tho`
have a good weekend, blimey is that all it is 3.00 pm, better do a bit of gardening before the dragon returns.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:15
- 5719 of 27111
Yes Fred - "I will squelch II until he is more constructive" how do you know unless you read ? LOL ;-)
Its an old trick - IMO they try to influence newbies into squelching people as they are afraid of them reading what is posted - that people need to keep saying "I squelched him" and then again "I squelched him" and later 1 week say the same again - its quite pathetic - but it serves a purpose of showing people for who they are and what their interest is - discussion - or just only spin and hype to get the price up and suck more people in.
Stanelco is in a very very risky stage now - thats why they are turning on me - as they cannot discuss the company they try to Bash the poster with a negative view - it means there is severe weakness now in SE0.
The MMs are now selling large volume at mid or under mid price - that means they expect trouble ahead and are clearing out.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:17
- 5720 of 27111
Those who need to talk about squelching - never squelch IMO ;-)
Looks like 200K volume gets you mid price - over 200K volume you can buy below mid price - is that a bargain - or a warning sign ? ;-) DYOR !!!!!
hewittalan6
- 10 Jun 2005 15:19
- 5721 of 27111
Serious question ii. You state that MM's are selling large volumes at mid or under mid price. How do you know that? I see trades go through and I see the price that the trade was at, and I see the computers guess as to whether it was a buy or a sell. But thats it. I am very interested to know how you can state with certainty that a deal at or below mid price is a buy?
wilbs
- 10 Jun 2005 15:21
- 5722 of 27111
Must be his insiderinside information.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:21
- 5723 of 27111
hewitt - those who trade on line can never know.
Phone your broker and ask him what price to buy for 200K and 500K - ask them to go the market and see what price can be got - then decline the trade after they get the price from the market.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:22
- 5724 of 27111
You always get the best trading prices from a broker - on line trading is quick and easy but you get messed on the price.
driver
- 10 Jun 2005 15:22
- 5725 of 27111
hewittalan6
- 10 Jun 2005 15:26
- 5726 of 27111
So how does this square with post 5709 showing that at 14.35 4 MM's wanted to Buy and only 1 wanted to sell. I am now confused as surely if only 1 were selling then he could command a premium, not a discount?
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:30
- 5727 of 27111
Lets just wait - and see ;-) IMO the MMs are on a promise of an RNS early next week to assist with clearing those 44M - if we do get large buying next week - and the price hardly moves up - you know why.
If we can actually go about 10 days without yet another SE0 RNS (might start calling them PRNF (public relations news flash) - meaning no RNS next week - then it will be very weak.
I am waiting for a salad talk RNS - but they might avoid that for fear of abusing the RNS system (Asda is in effect with 1 order so no more need for trial news).
hewittalan6
- 10 Jun 2005 15:32
- 5728 of 27111
Couldn't get an answer to post 5726 from ii, so can anyone else explain this apparent anomoly to me. Seriously guys, if I am missing the point, I am still on a learning curve.
Alan
bhunt1910
- 10 Jun 2005 15:34
- 5729 of 27111
Fred - you can normally guage when II is back on the thread by the reaction of others. Eric tends to monitor his posts - and if he become too obtuse - he generally comments on them. I choose to ignore his postings
I place more faith in the likes of Eric, driver, Bos, Andy etal (especially Andy whi is actually in the packaging business) than I do with II. I may be wrong - but Eric, Driver, Boswell, Andy etal have so far got an exemplary track record - which is more than I can say for II. I think if the mood chganges - there will be others that will start to question the current strategy - so I for one am not going to read through the pages of misinformation (in my opinion) that is posted by II.
......and whats more - it feels good.
Baza
Phart68
- 10 Jun 2005 15:34
- 5730 of 27111
Top Reasearch driver, well done.
V helpful.
Sequestor
- 10 Jun 2005 15:38
- 5731 of 27111
They -mm`s- are not interested in premiums or discounts 90% of the time , thats not to say they don`t use the situation to cash in as appropriate.Almost all of their money is made on the spread, the "mm`s playing games" theme is bb-BS.
MM`S are merely glorified barrow boys shouting their wares at a fixed profit (spread) if they see the market becalmed they will move the price to suit trades, up or down, they care little, and very rarely hold shares , why would a bookie own a horse?, they use derivatives to hedge.
gardening must come first
offski.
superrod
- 10 Jun 2005 15:40
- 5732 of 27111
hewitt....
i assume heavy buying next week with no sp increase means the 44million i(or part) is being dumped.